[NGTM-1R]

Originally posted by Ghost
EDIT:: Uh.... yeah.. dependent on position? See, that's why they have engines.. so they can MOVE.

Do they come at each other such that the Orion can bring the majority of its Terran Huge Turrets to bear? That's what dependant on posistion means.

[Kie99]

Originally posted by Ghost
EDIT:: Uh.... yeah.. dependent on position? See, that's why they have engines.. so they can MOVE.

*is tempted to flame Ghost. * Wonders if flames effect ghosts*
Dependent on poisition is like this, if you have a Colossus behind a Sathanas, the Sathanas will slowly but surely get killed, if however you put the Colossus in front of a Sathanas the Colossus will get toasted in less than a minute.

ngtm1r got it right.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by pyro-manic

Aldo: Was the OTT story ever published? I kind of missed the collapse to be honest...

I don't actually remember if it was....... I wouldn't like to tread on Nicos toes by saying what I do remember, though.

Unfortunately all the old project forums have been deleted and archived, so I can't even check to see if the internal was opened up.  Means I can't access the old Reci forum either, which is mildly annoying.

[TrashMan]

Originally posted by Ghost
Hmph. Now, if I was any decent sort of FREDer, I'd make a mission(no beams) with an Orion vs. Typhon, and I know that should be easy, but I blow ass at making missions. Someone want to make one, just so one of us will back down?

I did that in the good old days of FS1.

I've made a mission like "the clash of titans", the Orion and Typhon heading for eachother.

Without fighters, Orion won.

With fighters on both sides (equal number) it was roughly a even matched fight.

And then they underestimated it and got ambushed in every other battle of the 14 year war?

If all the terran ships are superior then how the hell did the vasudans manage to stalemate them for so long?

What are you talking about? What does this one battle have to do with others?
We know 2 Typhons were destroyed during the war, how many Orions - we have no idea.

And I never said terran ships are superior, I said the Typhon isn't superior to the Orion. Don't stretch the mening of my words.

EDIT: positioning really din't have a  high influence on Fs1 ships. They didn't have end-all weapons like beams, and they would quickly start circling eachother anyway.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Goober5000
Well, here's what the FS1 tech room says...Notice it says worlds, plural.  Not just Vasuda.

Never read that until just there :doh:

Oh, and incidentally; the techroom gives the first sighted Typhon credit with destroying the GTD Eisenhower and decimating fleet; given how utterly ****e the other Vasudan cruisers are (IIRc it even says so in the techroom), that would imply the Typhon was key.

It also implies that it wasn't a simple ambush of a damaged ship, otherwise it wouldn't be cited in the techroom as an example of the Typhons' threat; plus I'd find it less likely that a damaged Orion was somehow still travelling with a fleet rather than seeking repairs, and IMO any initial attack which 'softened' up the Orion to a suitable degree to make the Typhon look inferior would hint at the ship being weak itself.

Remember, also, that the techrooms purpose is to a) inform the player and b) fill the sort of role a GTA technical database would.  In both cases, it simply wouldn't make sense to exaggerate or misrepresent the ships strength.

Of course, as with the Colossus, it's possible the Typhon had to be toned down for the game balance or performance - there's definately a high(er?) poly version of it at the least.

[Ghost]

*praises Aldo*