[aldo_14]

Originally posted by redmenace
IIRC, the EU has been seeking or is seeking to question people poeple with out lawyers present and to do random searches of businesses.

Blame the UK for that sort of thing.......

um, I can't find anything stating that (I wouldn't be surprised if Clarke had shoved it into some proposal, though).  All I found was an April 04 draft framework proposal that would prevent questioning without lawyers (as was legal in some member states).

This is the current stuff; http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4675787.stm

Obviously the biometric ID stuff is a particular concern, as is the data retention plan (although the German courts have already ruled it illegal domestically, so i would be surprised to see a veto type situation).   But there's no concrete proposals I'm aware to legalise questioning without lawyers or allow random searches without evidence.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by ngtm1r
Eh...questionable. Most white supremicist groups have their own strange little religons that both do and do not resemble Christianity as the rest of us understand it, and tend to consider even those who are whacko-fringe but still vaguely mainstream heretical. They might like what he's saying, but they don't like the man.

If this idiot classifies as a christian then so does what the KKK and other white supremicist groups believe.

OF course you could easily state that Pat Robertson has his own strange little religon that both does and does not resemble Christianity as the rest of us understand it and I'd probably agree with you

Originally posted by Liberator
But just because he said it, you guys are blowing up, I mean if Jaque Chirac(sp?) had called for the same thing he'd be getting a pass.

Bollocks. If Chirac called for America to kill someone not only would be lambasting him for it we'd be calling him an idiot for not just simply getting his own bloody secret service to do it instead of announcing to the world that he wanted it done.

You'll need to find a better way to defend the guy Lib cause none of us are buying this argument.

[Flipside]

'Quick! Shoot ze President!'
'But I am le tired'
'Ok, take a nap, and THEN shoot ze president!'

[redmenace]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050824/D8C6DTO80.html

Just wow.

[karajorma]

I love that. He makes an arse of himself. Gets taped doing it and then tries to deny he ever said anything of the sort.

What a w**ker.

[Kosh]

How could he be misrepresented? This is just too funny.

[mikhael]

If Jacques Chirac had said what Robertson said, I'd declare him out of order. If Clinton had said what Robertson said, I'd declare him out of order too. I respect his right to say what he said (no matter that he denies it now--love that was on a site called "MyWayNews"), but I reserve the right to call him a jackass.

[Bobboau]

the first four paragraphs say it all

Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson insisted Wednesday that he did not call for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, despite comments broadcast on his program two days earlier.

"I didn't say 'assassination,'" Robertson said Wednesday on his Christian Broadcast Network show "The 700 Club" about remarks reported by The Associated Press and other media outlets.

"I said our special forces should 'take him out."Take him out' could be a number of things including kidnapping.

"There are a number of ways of taking out a dictator from power besides killing him. I was misinterpreted by the AP, but that happens all the time."

we have to live with this guy, and he's been doing this **** for years, we all remember the

"Gays caused 9/11!"

"hehe, you got to love these media people, hehe, I.. I never blamed the gays for 9/11, I was just misrepresented in the liberal media that wants to paint me as some waky.... ....and that's why Jesus loves us, but hates gays and wants us to kill them becaue he loves us"

"now why is it that the media, wich is liberal and biased, and out to get me trying to shoe words into my mouth, I never called for the genoside of all gay people, I simply pointer out that that is what you would do if it was a thousand years ago and you were christian... ...we need to embrace our traditions of old, we need to pass a constitutional amendment allowing the biblicaly based punishment of hethens and sodomites"

(not actual quotes)
at some point we just get tired of picking on him as he's obviusly liveing in his own world, and has no desier to to visit ours

[karajorma]

Keep picking on him. The "moral majority" has a diproportional amount of power. Nutcases like him remove a lot of that power by showing fundementalist for what they really are so it's a good idea to keep him in the news

[redmenace]

I wouldn't even classify him as a fundamentalist. He is far too warped.

[aldo_14]

[q]
"I said our special forces should 'take him out."Take him out' could be a number of things including kidnapping.[/q]

Oh, well that's just fine then.

Maybe he wanted to take Chavez away to a quiet Italian resteraunt for dinner before shagging him?

[WMCoolmon]

No, the Special Forces were supposed to take him out to dinner. Presumeably Pat Robertson has some kind of lead that Chavez is gay, making him a threat to National Security.