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Offline Roanoke

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Re: So it's not a 'War on Terror' any more?
Remind me again how the US is supposed to 'win' a war against a freakin' verb?

Simple. The same way they won the war on drugs. Or the war on poverty.


Uh, nevermind eh ?

 

Offline aldo_14

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Re: So it's not a 'War on Terror' any more?
Anyone remember the bit(s) about perpetual war in 1984?

 

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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

Offline aldo_14

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Re: So it's not a 'War on Terror' any more?
Russia aren't officially commies, though.  Granted, the old USSR wasn't exactly in the Marxist spirit either, but they did label themselves as that.

 

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:wtf:

If you're differentiating between Russia, the Soviet Union, and the USSR, then I give up. I was never able to get a straight answer on what the difference was between the UK, England, and Britain, either. ;)
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

Offline aldo_14

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:wtf:

If you're differentiating between Russia, the Soviet Union, and the USSR, then I give up. I was never able to get a straight answer on what the difference was between the UK, England, and Britain, either. ;)

eh?  It's easy.

The United Kingdom (of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, to give the full title) is the country consisting of Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland, first established by the union of the Scottish and English crowns in 1603, when James VI of Scotland becames James I of England (who lacked a natural successor to the throne), followed by the 1707 Act of Union.  All share the same national government, although Scotland has a devolved parliament, Wales a slightly-less devolved National Assembly and Northern Ireland a suspended (due to Sinn Fein - DUP bickering over the IRA ceasfire)

England is the largest of those 4 composite 'countries', with a population of about 50m (out of 55-58 or so total).

Britain is a general term referring to the UK; it descends from the roman province of Brittain (NB: kind of simplified etymology here).  The British Isles refer to both the UK and Eire.

 

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Ok, I think it's the whole "composite 'countries'" aspect that gets me confused.
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

Offline aldo_14

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Ok, I think it's the whole "composite 'countries'" aspect that gets me confused.

Um.... imagine the Palestinian territories and Israel merging into a proper union in a fair amicable manner.

****, it is hard, isn't it?

 

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Crikey, mate.
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

  

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Re: So it's not a 'War on Terror' any more?
Sounds like a job for UNATCO!



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