[edemark]

OK all shall we just get back to tha issue of my problem of not being able to play fs2_open other than with -nothl option? I would really like to be able to play this game with harware acceleration. I still think that my card shall be good enough to play the game (ati radeon igp 345 with 128 mb shared ram. So please if you have any usefull ideas that go ahead and plis help me resolve this problem


please again
any ideas?
thanks

[edemark]

Ant ideas please


thanks in advance

[Freespace Freak]

Don't think he was talkin' bout choo

I know.  I was thinking, what would happen if someone said some crap and you say 'QFT' and he thinks it's a compliment and all, but in reality you're saying, 'What a moron!'

QFT

Funny.  Oh, QFT by the way.

[Freespace Freak]

OK all shall we just get back to tha issue of my problem of not being able to play fs2_open other than with -nothl option? I would really like to be able to play this game with harware acceleration. I still think that my card shall be good enough to play the game (ati radeon igp 345 with 128 mb shared ram. So please if you have any usefull ideas that go ahead and plis help me resolve this problem


please again
any ideas?
thanks

This is what I suggest.  Intall FSOpen, but don't install any mediavp files.  You did read Karajorma's FAQ, right?  He says to create a folder called mediavps and place all the mediavp files in there, such as mv_core and so forth.  In the launcher, in the mod tab, select that folder.  What I want you to do this time is install FSOpen, but don't put anything in the mediavp folder.  Not mvcore not anything.  Run the game.  Does it have the same problem?  If so, as we've suspected, it's a hardware issue.  See if you can find an older version of FSOpen and run that, just as I said.  If it doesn't work on an ancient version, then I don't know what to tell you, but it should seeing as you'll be running essentially FS2 retail with just some extra SCP features.  If it works using just FSOpen with no mediavps, install your mediavp files one at a time into your mediavp folder.  After you place each one in that folder, run FSOpen and see if it runs fine.  If it crashes, then you know which mediavp file is causing the problem.  You can get the 3.6.7 version of FSOpen and the mediavps here.

[karajorma]

If you do find it to be a hardware fault FS2_Open 3.5.5 probably will work for you. There was a thread about it recently.

[taylor]

If you do find it to be a hardware fault FS2_Open 3.5.5 probably will work for you. There was a thread about it recently.

He's running on Linux though, nothing that old was cross-platform.  If it's hardware (and I think it is, unless Mesa has an update that can fix the problem) then FSO isn't going to work and the only other option is to use the icculus.org version, the retail port.

[Freespace Freak]

I that's the case, then if it is a hardware issue, then he can change his OS to Windows or dual boot.

[taylor]

I that's the case, then if it is a hardware issue, then he can change his OS to Windows or dual boot.

He's looking to make the situation better, not worse.

Plus, we've already determined that this particular video card doesn't work in any remotely recent build under Windows either.  The card is just old and was never meant for playing 3D games since it's only capable of doing the basic stuff (ie, no HTL).

If the choice is between a really old version of FSO, or the icculus.org port, then I'd go with the icculus.org port personally.  That way you get all of the retail bug fixes, and cross-platform support, but without all of the crap that was added later.

[karajorma]

If he's just looking to run FS2 on Linux I'll agree that Icculus is the best choice. However if he wants flashy new graphics etc running 3.5.5 on WINE is likely to be his only option (assuming it even works).

[Freespace Freak]

Pretty much my thoughts.  If he can only run FSOpen with no mediavps installed, then he might as well go with regular old retail, or I guess Icculus FS2.  However, if his problems lies with just one or two of the mediavps, then he could just run the game without it, or find an older, more compatible version of the same mediavp and just roll with that.

[edemark]

OK so I have tried 3.6.5 even though i was almost sure that it is a harware issue. And so it did not work. I got the same error message. So it is for sure that the problem is a harware stuff. On the other side I refuse to accept that this is an old card I mean it was supposed to do 3d staff if not why for up to 128mb of video ram (even if it is shared it is just too much for 2D). I would also like to mention that i do play 3d games. I do not want to give a large list but it includes cube gles tremolous quake 3 just to mention some. Of course it is a highly unsupported card as it is, if i am not mistaken, one of the last card unsupported by the ati propietary driver (that has support from the 9000 series onward). I suppose also that a new mesa driver might resolve this problem, so i will wait for this new driver.

Meanwhile I will try both options mentioned here run fs2_open in wine (so far what i have learned is that the original game got gold label in wine so it should work). I might also get back to the icculus version which i am afraid of as their fs1 worked only up to a mission and there was no way forward. I have also heard from frend that their fs2 has the same problem, namely that when it get to a mission (i do not really know which) it just crashes the game and no way forward. But anyway i will give it a try

one more thing i really get surprised that with my card fs2_open would not even work in windows i always thought that the mayor part of my problem is the linux driver because as long as i had win i was able to play any games, so this info shocked me.
Any other ideas
some hacking or so that would open the way of fs2_open?

anyway thanks

[taylor]

I have also heard from frend that their fs2 has the same problem, namely that when it get to a mission (i do not really know which) it just crashes the game and no way forward.

If it's the bug I'm thinking of then it was fixed over a year ago.  I don't think that there have been any pre-compiled packages of the icculus.org version since then though, so you should really grab it from SVN and build it yourself.

[edemark]

it actually happened not more than a month ago, but with an installation of a precompiled package that was from 2004 or so.
So i suppose i shall do as you suggested. The only problem is that i do not really know how to use svn. So if you have some ideas i would really appreciate them.

thanks in advance

[edemark]

ok i resolved the problem of using svn. Now I have a freshly compiled freespace2 by icculus. So i am going to play this till the resolution of how to use hadware acceleration on my card come out.

So I am still waiting for an answer for my question if someone could help

thanks again

[Freespace Freak]

Er, I'm fresh out of ideas.  If you can't play FS2_Open without any mediavps then I'm stuck.

[edemark]

Look I was not really trying to use vp files as i was first trying to make the game work. Of course I had allready downloaded some vp files but as I cannot make the game work I did not even tried the vp files. And now that I will play the icculus version I guess no way to use vp files

but it could have been vp files issue though sadly it was not but a hardware one.

thanks for your help