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Offline IPAndrews

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Score one for consumers
Apple's "Fairplay" DRM encryption cracked.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6083110.stm

Soon you'll be able to but your music from apple, and play it wherever you like. What is the world coming too!  :rolleyes:
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Re: Score one for consumers
Meh, that was in the Metro today...................
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Offline Unknown Target

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Re: Score one for consumers
Thank God. I'm tired of having some $40 worth of merchandise completely unusable.

 

Offline Ulala

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Yeah, it's kind of frustrating to legitimately download files (by paying for them) and then not being able to do with them what I please.
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Offline Freespace Freak

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More importantly, I think this will work the other way, so I can take other formats from places other than itunes, such as napster, and put it in the ipod.   :)

 

Offline Nuke

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i would buy music off the net if they gave it to me in any format of my choosing. their desire to tyranically dictate everything pisses me off and makes me not want to do buisness with them. mp3 is an old format, everything supports it hardware and software alike, and its one of the best lossy formats. i really dont like the idea of using a proprietary format, it just stinks of corprate greed and arrogance. this is definately good news, but untill they themselves admit to being dicks, il continue to liberate media.
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Offline Mars

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Re: Score one for consumers
Surely Apple knew this would happen eventually.

 

Offline KappaWing

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i would buy music off the net if they gave it to me in any format of my choosing. their desire to tyranically dictate everything pisses me off and makes me not want to do buisness with them. mp3 is an old format, everything supports it hardware and software alike, and its one of the best lossy formats. i really dont like the idea of using a proprietary format, it just stinks of corprate greed and arrogance. this is definately good news, but untill they themselves admit to being dicks, il continue to liberate media.

Wait so do you mean mp3 is good or bad?
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Offline Nuke

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its good when i say its old, i mean its been around forever, it works really well, everything supports it, and that makes it a hell of alot better than any of the proprietary formats. there are other formats which are better, but they dont have the footprint that mp3 has left.
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Offline KappaWing

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its good when i say its old, i mean its been around forever, it works really well, everything supports it, and that makes it a hell of alot better than any of the proprietary formats. there are other formats which are better, but they dont have the footprint that mp3 has left.

Well I mean obviously its nicely compressed, and doesent lose much sound quality compared to other formats, right?
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Offline Nuke

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i guess. its my format of choice, but thats only has to do with the fact ive been using it for over 10 years.
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Offline Nix

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Re: Score one for consumers
FairPlay has been cracked numerous times before.  Apple's known about this, and with every new version of itunes that is released, has the encryption scheme changed just a bit so the current versions of FairPlay stop functioning.  Usually within a day, it's already cracked again.


 

Offline Polpolion

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Doesn't the only thing that MP3s cut out are the portions of the track that are inaudible to the human ear, or something?

 

Offline Herra Tohtori

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About so - mp3 compression system first removes sounds that it believes are inaudible, and then as the compression rate is increased, proceeds to other sounds, creating the characteristic "chime" of dreadfully packed audio files. However, the fact is that even if the voice might be inaudible, it doesn't mean they don't contribute to the actual hearing experience. Infra- and ultrasound both do have effect on human brain, and that's one of the reasons why most people dislike organ music recordings. The actual organ concert includes so much more frequencies than any speaker system can play accurately, that the recording is often actually annoying instead of nice-sounding. Most other instruments sound just good in recordings, but organs actually use the whole church as part of the instrument, and the sheer size of the echo chamber creates some awe-inspiring stuff resonating from the walls.

That said, most cheap speakers can't play the "lost data" in mp3's anyway due to limitations in frequency area. But the better speakers, the more clear the difference between unpacked good quality wav or CD voice and mp3 made of it is.

Obviously, most people can't hear the difference between a good quality 320 kbps mp3 and 48 MHz 24-bit wav sound regardless of the equipment, but when the compression rate gets higher the difference is rather clear. 128 kbps mp3 tracks suck monkey ass compared to the CD tracks they are made of. The difference becomes most apparent in classical music records, pop/rock music doesn't suffer as much - mainly because classical music has usually so much wider frequency area.

Non-fixed compression rate formats are better than fixed-rate mp3's IMHO. They use adaptive compression that produces smaller quality loss and more optimized size.
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Offline Nuke

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i usually shoot for 192k - 256k cbr. i dont know why i dont use vbr, probibly because i never really played with it enough to find the sweet spot. anyway im not an audiophile so i dont need my music to be crisp and clear. it makes my black metal sound more kvlt to use lower quality formats. :D
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Offline KappaWing

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i usually shoot for 192k - 256k cbr. i dont know why i dont use vbr, probibly because i never really played with it enough to find the sweet spot. anyway im not an audiophile so i dont need my music to be crisp and clear. it makes my black metal sound more kvlt to use lower quality formats. :D

under 56 kbps = KVLT!
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