[Unknown Target]

the real problem is that the creationist argument relies on 'god', when in fact such a god does not exist.  kinda makes the whole argument kinda silly.

Saying that "god" doesn't exist has just as much truth value as saying he does exist. You can't just say he doesn't exist and call the argument that he does exist "silly" without justification. And even if you provide justification, you can never completely remove the concept - which is why the debate continues to this day and will probably continue forever.

[Janos]

well first you're wrong and second it's not because your debating skills suck but because your position sucks

Davin's position doesn't 'suck', and it's rather offensive for you to call it such. His position is laughably wrong, but it does not 'suck' in any way, shape or form.

Seriously Davin, there are times when you just have to swallow your pride and admit that you were completely and utterly incorrect in your baseless assumptions, and no amount of pigheadedness will make up for it.

It's dumb and objectively false, not based on anything and he does not want to discuss it? The position sucks, because it is wrong, and it sucks because he said he is unwilling to check it? I mean, if that does not qualify as sucking then what does.

[karajorma]

the real problem is that the creationist argument relies on 'god', when in fact such a god does not exist.  kinda makes the whole argument kinda silly.

The problem isn't the reliance on God so much as the reliance on a God who creates the universe and then goes to extraordinary lengths to obfuscate that he did it, only to then write a great big book telling everyone he did it.

Even if you're religious a much more sensible option is that God simply waited for humans to evolve before revealing his existence.

If I didn't know better I'd swear that creationism was a galactic equivalent of the show Space Cadets and right now they're at the stage where they're trying to figure out who is stupid enough to fall for the next stage.

[Ford Prefect]

I mean, if that does not qualify as sucking then what does.

Well I could post a picture but I would get banned.

[Janos]

I mean, if that does not qualify as sucking then what does.

Well I could post a picture but I would get banned.

oh darling you know how to play me like a mandolin <3

[Flipside]

[aldo_14]

Pff, that's so unbelievable.  You'd never see a US president wearing a pink t-shirt.

[Kosh]

If Darvin or anyone else is interested, I found a good video series on the internet that talks about what science is, what it is not, how it works, and also the terminology (like the word "theory") that people keep getting confused by. It also talks about the religious points of view, and also why "Intelligent Design" is not accepted by the general scientific community.

In fact I challenge Darvin and/or any of his/her friends to look at everything in there, and the come back here and talk to us about it.