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This model is based on the original version from 1974 with a texture details from the 1998 OVA, I am not too sure if there are other variations.

Render:



Screenshot (as before I replaced the Joints with spheres for the in-game model):



The Getter Dragon and the Getter 1 near the Earth (it's a model, not a background):



The Beam Animation (it's still not perfect):

Codec: DivX v6.5.1 (you can download it from www.divx.com)
Size: 1 MB

http://www.mediafire.com/?cnmmgtdnukj

Hi-Res Screenshots [Size: 12 MB]:

http://www.mediafire.com/?dqcgamzrmd2

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Info and comments:

Getter 1:

* Pilot: Ryoma Nagare
* Height: 38m
* Weight: 220 tons
* Weapons:
          - Getter Beam
          - Getter Tomahawk
          - Tomahawk Boomerang
          - Getter Machine Gun

More info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getter_Robo

As with the other model, the Getter Dragon, I still have the problem that my subobjects reset to the center position (0, 0, 0) if have more than a deep of 2 child objects, I can't still figure why this happens at all, but I have heard this bug is been reported with turrets.

The scale seen in the screenshots is wrong, the actual height is 30m and it should be 38m. I still haven't modeled the weapons, both the Getter Tomahawk, which is pretty easy to do, I completely forgot about the Machine Gun (it's actually a Vulcan Cannon), getting reference for that is going to be really difficult since it's only seen detailed in the manga and in the Armageddon OVA. I may improve some details later on the Getter 1 when I get to see the OVA (probabily I'll rework the frontal part of the feet, since I don't like how I modeled them, but it's ok for now).

 

Offline takashi

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how do you move the arms/legs though?

 
You need to do Table editing and implement the part of the Animation Code you like, the triggers are limited to a few useful events, but they can be extended through scripting, I haven't take a look at it but I guess I should start testing with the Key Press function.

If you want to move something like an Arm you should set the subobjects links to something like this:

+ Chest
            +Shoulder
                        +Arm

I am for now limited to a max deep of 2 Child Objects, with more I would be able animate the hands, the main body, or even the fingers, but every time I try to port my models to POF format any object that has a deep of 3 or more will get moved and appear in the center of my model.

There are more requirements, from the model itself to POF editing, then the Tables.

 

Offline takashi

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then dont even dare say "done" until its animated.

 
Why would I say that ? and even if so, why not ?, the model has animation even before I created this topic.

I can't understand your real question. Animation does work with the model, it has animation for the head, shoulders, arms and legs, of course it can be improved as I explained. I have already shown that it's possible with another model, thought I don't consider it to be good enough for in-game use yet.

Codec: Divx v6.5.1 (if you can't see the video you can download the codec from www.divx.com)

Defense:

http://www.mediafire.com/?02hg1ht2gky

Punch (Just for testing):

http://www.mediafire.com/?5ykjdb2lmdj

 

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Sweet Jesu! He NEVER said DONE at any point.

Seriously Takashi, you've really been pissing me off on BOTH boards now and not only do you owe Shadow0000 an apology, but you really need to stop and think before you post in the future.

Not only have you insulted a highly skilled Modeler, you're spamming your standard bull**** in a thread near and dear to my heart.  :mad:

I hope the powers that be are monitoring this latest batch...


And Shadow0000, While I disliked the design of the original '74 Getter (as 76 G is my world  :nod:) That picture of them together is awesome!

I'm not sure of the geneology as for decades I only knew of G so Lets see what I picked up over the last few years on Getter lore (note I am only sure of HALF of it, the other half I am completely guessing. There are not many English sites that have complete info I could find so far...)

Getter '74
Getter G '76
New Getter G '? (Armageddon style but I've seen it a lot earlier! The toys)
Getter Robo Go??? (I think this was a separate title not sure, is this related to Goshogun/Macron One???)
Neo Getter '? (Totally FUGLY design , transforms into Shin Getter near the end of the OVA, thank God!  :lol:)
Shin Getter 2000 (I think)
Shin Getter Dragon 2002
Getter Emporer '? (Was this the elusive image shown for a moment in the OVA's Ryoma's delusion?)
God Getter '?  (Never heard of that before)

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I don't know if the head should glow green when it makes the getter beam, I guess not, but the Shin Getter glows when it makes it's final attack and it has make wonder if it should or not...

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Getter (1974/1975): it also has a Great Mazinger movie: "Great Mazinger vs Getta Robo")

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Getter G (1975/1976): it also has a Great Mazinger movie: "Great Mazinger vs Getta Robo G", though other Go Nagai robots  appear.

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Getter Robo Go (1991)[TV Series]: it never has good impact, mostly because the drawing style was quite different, and the Go hardly seems like a Getter...besides the name and the transformations.

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Getta Robo Sekai Saigo no Hi (1998)[OVA]: Shin Getter Robot Armageddon (or the "Last Day"), I think here is where the Getter Emperor is shown as a memory or as drawn in a rock, a very old Getter that resembles the Shin Getter.

I have see that the Getter Dragon sometimes has it circular saws, and sometimes has the ones like the Shin Getter, I guess it can fold out them as it needs, that should be something extra to model.

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Getter Robo Daikessen! (1999/PS1): the PlayStation where the Shin Black Getter, and the Shin Dragon are featured. (I am not sure about the Shin Black Getter, but I heard so...)

The Getter 1 (3D model): http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c254/Shadow0000/Getter_1_Daikessen.png

The Getter G: http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c254/Shadow0000/Getter_Dragon_Daikessen.png

This is considered a 3rd variation, notice how it both combines the '76 and '98 one, I guess I aimed the Getter Dragon to something like this, but with a body like the Neo Getter.

The Shin Dragon: http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c254/Shadow0000/Shin_Dragon_02.png

I have no info about this, just that it's seems to be the final Getter. I guess my only choice is to play the game, getting 3D references of every Getter, ship, and other, would be really useful, but playing and modeling is 2x time consuming, so...

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Shin Getter Robo vs Neo Getter Robo (2000/2001)[OVA]: The Neo Getter is residesing of the Getter Robo Go, and it was the redemption to it, in fact If I would see the Go I would have a hard time telling it's a Getter. The Neo Getter uses Plasma as it energy source, meaning that it's not unstable as the Getter Ray based models, but it has a limited amount of energy. It also has the colour scheme changed to resemble more a mazinger, and it's head it's more like G. The Neo Getter has also a Silver version, I guess it somekind of temporary powerup.

The Getter Go: http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c254/Shadow0000/Getter_Go.jpg

The Neo Getter: http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c254/Shadow0000/Neo_Getter.jpg

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Shin Getter Robo (New Getter Robo)(2004)(OVA): here is where the remake of the Getter 1/2/3 is featured, it resembles a lot the Shin Getter, but it look less powerful (to some point).

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The "God" Getter, it's actually a nickname made by fans, it appears at the 4th and last episode of Neo Getter Robot vs Shin Getter Robot, it's a metamorphose of the Shin Getter 1, the desing somewhat resembles a beetle, specially the feet, it has a paint scheme like a Mazinger, even when it spreads it's wings you can notice they are Mazinger's wings. It only has 1 official and exclusive attack, I bet the Shin Dragon is even more powerful, as both of them don't have any 2nd or 3rd form.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c254/Shadow0000/God_Getter_1.png

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c254/Shadow0000/God_Getter_2.png

One of the interesting things about the God Getter, is that when the Shin Getter does it metamorphose, not only it grows, but the floor below him breaks. A basic law of the Getter Rays, is that they can morph mass, but they can neither create or destroy any, as seen always the weight should be the same, regardless of the size of the robot.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2007, 02:53:30 am by Shadow0000 »

 

Offline Getter Robo G

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heh Thanks for the history lesson!  :D
Never can hurt to have an accurate geneology...

As for the Rays themselves, I only found out about them around 2000. Unfortunately they were renamed and classified as a mere power source (omicron rays) retconned to be coming from space (like cosmic rays).

From what I could gather from the subbed/dubbed  vids, Saotome found the Rays and harnessed them somehow (never really clarified as to what/where they are, just under his mountain).

From the effect of the Getter Beam (concentrated Rays), on various enemies in the diff series it seems to outright destroy or quickly age/disintergrate opponents based either on flesh or metal composition.

Since I had nothing to compare this to I chose that route in my fanfic. I figured the Getter Beam is merely breaking down the target into cellular components (so organics "DIE" and mechanicals have their critical systems/power sources breeched and containment fails and they blow up).

Also based on Armageddon I thought there was a vague refence to how the (Black soupy) aliens can't keep up with the Rays and get "evolved to death" (Like the first time Shin Getter Shoots out of the lab and you see a bunch of eco-evolution go on aroudn teh path of the beam...

Basicly if you can clear this up for me I'd appreciate it.

Unfortuantely I wrote myself into a corner that ultiamtely Getter is related to Cthullu and that explains it's powers of Evolution and feeding off emotions and all that other stuff. Oh and being self aware, lol!

LOL sicne I'm doing a mega-crossover I'm very tempted to introduce Star Wars, and then an alternate version of that in which I get turned by the Emporer.

Can you imagine that?

Getter Robo - Lord of the Sith! (Just add giant lightsaber)  ;)




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"I am the one and ONLY Star Dragon..."
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The "God" Getter, it's actually a nickname made by fans, it appears at the 4th and last episode of Neo Getter Robot vs Shin Getter Robot,

Any change of seeing God Ginrai model  :lol:  :D
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Meh...Daitan III, SDF-1 or (Black)Escaflowne would kick getters ass any day of the week  ;7
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Meh...Daitan III, SDF-1 or (Black)Escaflowne would kick getters ass any day of the week  ;7

LOL so would Ginrai   ;7
That's cool and ....disturbing at the same time o_o  - Vasudan Admiral

"Don't play games with me. You just killed someone I like, that is not a safe place to stand. I'm the Doctor. And you're in the biggest library in the universe. Look me up."

"Quick everyone out of the universe now!"

 
If you can somehow add Stoner Sunshine and OPEN GET! into this, we'd love you forever and ever. Keep at it!

 

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Meh...Daitan III, SDF-1 or (Black)Escaflowne would kick getters ass any day of the week  ;7

Meh, I'll ignore that blasphemy cause you used a smiley (Takashi could learn something there) also the fact that you know nothing of Getter and it's main pilot. (my hero)

The Barrier is the ONLY thing that would keep Getter from ripping it to shreds bare handed. :D


I've been way too involved with SE5 to do anything ATM but I do want to try and make a short vid (temp using Shadow0000's pof) and my lights to show you Open Get. I have an idea for Stoner (in the American version we call it Star Energise for the power up anf Star Fire for the release)

I tried a quick experiment earlier but I was using open 3.9 and think I screwed something up so next weekend I will try again in 3.6 since I am more comfortable with it just to see if it's viable for translation.


I'm sure Shadow0000 has something in mind though. :)

« Last Edit: April 09, 2007, 01:41:49 pm by Getter Robo G »
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It' not about which robot which mech is more poweful, for now I just want to make ones with different skills like a Super Robot and a Real one, of course I could have go and and try modeling a super mega powerful mech but that wouldn't be funny.

I still need to see Armageddon, I guess I'll do a final Getter model and then jump to another series:



I wanted to make a battleship or a Corvette but I still gathering reference for the one I want, so in the meanwhile I'll do that to be used as an enemy. The UFO has a direct straight Beam (Type 4) in the center, and 4 vacuum turret devices around the main weapon, that can also be done, it seems posses a really powerful shield.

I also need to see Macross 7, I want to take a look at that desing, I get to see the Macross-13 a few days ago, but it wasn't shown in-game clear enough to notice anything, specially since it was so big it was blocking the sun behind it, I guess it's about the same size as the 7.

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If you can somehow add Stoner Sunshine and OPEN GET! into this, we'd love you forever and ever. Keep at it!

That can be done, I also have those sounds (for personal only), pretty bad I can't record them in the videos. The Open Get is really easy to do, but I would need to desing first the 3 ships, I am not sure about that, are the ships of the Getter G different of the ones of the Getter 1, because I can't find them anywhere until they are the same.

The Shining Spark can also be done, but I am not sure about the proper effect if lightning, flame, or both, I didn't make it because, I would need the chest to rotate forward, and the problems with the subobjects don't let me do that. If you see the series just think about a shot the size of the robot with a radius more than 50, that travels at 0 speed, the idea is that you should only fire when you're at max speed otherwise the attack will remain still and do nothing, it will go at the same position that you are traveling until you stop or change direction, though It would be good if I could make some weapon lock detecting speed.

You don't even need to create an animated effect, I remember I was trying to use something like this for physical piercing attacks and for comets, and guess it should be more attenuated:



I would be more concerned about team party attacks, pressing a key and getting to control the 2 Getters to fire the Getter Beam while dealing extra damage, not that I couldn't make it already, but I would need to make dockpoints, beam locks, and a few more things. I guess is going to be a pain with more complex attacks.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2007, 03:30:17 pm by Shadow0000 »

 

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Meh...Daitan III, SDF-1 or (Black)Escaflowne would kick getters ass any day of the week  ;7

Meh, I'll ignore that blasphemy cause you used a smiley (Takashi could learn something there) also the fact that you know nothing of Getter and it's main pilot. (my hero)

I put a smiley no matter what I say -  as insurance :D

SDF-1 is of ludicorous proportions with tons and tons and tons of weapon (not to mention reflex cannons, nukes, railguns)

Daitan II is, well, almost as big as SDF-1 and has tons of weapons too. however, I jsut threw him in since he was the first one that popped into my head.. it's been a looooong ime since I watched it and I barely rememebr anything...save for hte fact that it shot some solar bursts and had a missile launcher in his.... khm.. yeah...*God, I cna't belive I loved watching that show....kids *

Escaflowne...well...is Escaflowne...tons of wierd powers and a MEAN attitude

*If you havn't noticed so far, trying to start a flame war*

But seriously back on topic. I did see 1-2 episodes of Getter when I was a kid, but that's all I remeber about it.

Models are detailed and some of hte effects there look neat. Keep up the god work  ;)
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Daitan II is, well, almost as big as SDF-1 and has tons of weapons too. however, I jsut threw him in since he was the first one that popped into my head.. it's been a looooong ime since I watched it and I barely rememebr anything...save for hte fact that it shot some solar bursts and had a missile launcher in his.... khm.. yeah...*God, I cna't belive I loved watching that show....kids *

The Daitarn 3 is a big super robot, it has a height of 120m, compared to the SDF-1 in attack mode (Robot mode), has an height of 1200m, 10 times bigger (see the giant legs at the right of picture, that's the Daitarn 3):



Now, that if you would consider the crew needed to operate both machines, it would be different.

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But seriously back on topic. I did see 1-2 episodes of Getter when I was a kid, but that's all I remeber about it.

The Getter 1 and the G have at least half of the life points of the Daitarn 3, and even less defense, though they have more evasion, size and and hitpoints always bring some disadventages.

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Models are detailed and some of hte effects there look neat. Keep up the god work 

Thanks
« Last Edit: April 09, 2007, 05:46:14 pm by Shadow0000 »

 

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Hey Shadow0000, did you see NEW Getter Robo?

It's 13 episodes and totally revamps the characters from day 1. Basically a big restart button for the whole series but told from today's POV.

Don't want to ruin it for you, but it's a huge wankfest of the gore and ego we all know and love! :)
This series (in Ryoma's dream sequence) shows a glipse of the [Getter Emporer/Shin Getter Dragon?]. Whatever it is is badass looking.

The new soundtrack is kicking but I feel lacking in decent fight music aside from the opening title and SAGA...

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Star Blazers: Journey to Iscandar...
FS GUNDAM - The Myth lives on... :)

 
It's the 2004 OVA "Shin Getter Robo" (New Getter Robo) I know that all of the new series are up on Youtube, but then again I'll prefer to wait and get some time to see other 2 series, for now the only OVA I have seen is Neo Getter Robo vs Shin Getter Robo.

I just see a brief part of the first episode, enough to see the original Getter 1, the other variations or prototypes, and the New Shin Getter, or Shin New Getter, there is some naming scheme with the dolls, but I guess the series adress it as Getter 1 only ?. As I posted before that Getter 1 is more based over the Shin Getter, it would be easier to first desing the Shin Getter and then that one. In the other hand is not something I want to do yet, the model desing changes a lot, specially the chest, I should try something more intermediate between the two, like the Neo Getter.

The Shin Getter Dragon is already featured in Armageddon, and there are some hints and references to the Emperor. The Getter Emperor is supposed to be the evolution of the Shin Getter and have the size of a planet, I guess is the biggest Super Robot out there.

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There are also 2 mangas which are retellings:

Venger Robot (1993): A retelling of the Getter Robo Go (1991/TV series)
Getter Robo Ark (2003): A retelling of Shin Getter Robo

I have see some pages of Ark, I am not sure if it's a retelling, it seems the main robot is the Getter Ark.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2007, 09:10:11 am by Shadow0000 »

  

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Thanks for the info! I'll be looking up those titles later for research.

By they way, how did you get so knowledgeable? Are you located in the Far East or something?  :D

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Star Blazers: Journey to Iscandar...
FS GUNDAM - The Myth lives on... :)