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Offline JGZinv

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Same here...

Ep 49 that just played had some nice panning using the digital animation.
Very smooth flow of the action there.

How the GekkoGo almost stopped on a dime, pointed up, and proceeded to do a series of
forward thrust spirals in order to escape the drone weapons... is beyond explaining in normal physics.

Heh, I thought I had a fairly good idea of it's speed and capabilities until it did that. ^_^
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Hehe, redsniper, I was just thinking of firing off a message to you to see if you were still keeping up. :)

Words simply cannot describe what this episode was like, nor what it did to me.  I mean...my God, this was beyond amazing.  Dai Sato and BONES deserve every ounce of credit in the world for this masterpiece.  All I know at this point is that the time between here and next Saturday night had damn well better move more swiftly than any week I've experienced before...

(Also, for the sake of absolute safety, there's no way I'm looking back in this thread until next Sunday. :p)

 

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I have the E7 Complete Best CD/DVD set, of which I made a review on my forum.

The DVD has the full openings and closings (CN cut out a fair amount, particularly
from the last OP) which looks quite nice as to color quality on DVD. It also has the two game
OP's and a AMV of sorts for the series... rather long and good in and of itself.

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yeah, you can also see the full intros and outros on youtube and download them from asfdotcom.net.
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I missed all of AS last night due to me being crap-a-brick tired, I was mostly upset about missing bleach, but now that I think about it I was sort of wondering what was going to happen in this as well, this show did end up semi-passable, due largely in part to a dramatic reduction in skyboard related scenes.
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Well, I like having the real thing... including the books, cards, and so forth -
which I'm aware are available as scans/torrents.

Another part of it is l enjoy getting a much better price than most other folks.
Such as Amazon has sets in the $60-80 range... I got mine for about $40

Not sure if anyone knew this or not, but there is a GekkoGo model out there.
It was made for the last WonderFest, I've seen a couple available.

I don't suppose anyone has the E7 model book? It might come in handy if modeling
references were needed.

Bob - you missed a good episode.
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no I didn't,
youtube,
I just watched the next (last) one too, I like how it ends with posably the greatest act of vandalism humanity will ever know :)
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Gaaah! No hinting, no spoiling! You're fine now, just... don't go any farther.
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I worded that very carefully so that it would only make sense after the fact.

I will admit the last few episodes were very nice, and the ending was pretty satisfying, which is more than can be said about most animes.
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 :shaking: ONE HOUR LEFT!!! THE END IS NEAR!!!
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...aaaaand apparently [as] cut off the last 4 or so minutes of the episode, which leaves me feeling rather unsatisfied...
I realize the last scene probably doesn't contain any epic plot twist or revalation, but I'm just kinda lacking that sense of closure or finality I was hoping for. :blah:

Anywho, their forums are going bananas now, and if you could use <img> tags there I would most certainly be goatse'ing the place to hell right now. I guess I'll have to go hit up Youtube eventually and see what I missed. :doubt:
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Actually it was fairly important... they also messed up the credits and the opening
too. Considering what I've read in the last 10 hours or so, it changes the ending quite a
bit as to being open vs. closed.

I'm pretty ticked off at AS for cutting it like that when now I know what I missed
(went forum hopping). Supposedly a OVA may be in the works, another line of prequel
manga has been announced. A fan made 51ish festival episode exists too. The 13th JP
DVD also had a boy with wings and blonde hair, and a girl with Eureka's teal hair but no
wings standing at the beach with regular surfboards on the cover... so who knows there.

One place for info and scans of the art books is here -
http://z7.invisionfree.com/Eureka_Seven/

Now I'll have to result to downloads after I can get broadband or wait for the DVDs
to finish being released when AS simply could of cut the dumb commercials by 5-6 minutes.

Where's Carl? I've got a job for him in AS's air ducts...  :eek2:
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you know the scene they cut out actually really confused me, I mean it went from "go live on earth and be an example for everyone" to "hmm I wonder when they are gona get back..."
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Hey, if I'd just spent the last year busting my ass to save the world, I'd want some time alone with my girl too. :D

Funny you should mention the cut scene...this Monday, BrandMerrill, a Williams Street employee, posted on the message boards stating that [as] apologized for the "butchering" of the final episode and would be re-airing it "as complete as possible" this Saturday at 1AM.  What's more, he posted today that episode 50 will be placed back on the [as] Fix in its entirety for all of next week, starting tomorrow.  It is nice to see them show some true concern for the opinions of their fans once in a while. :)

Also, I never did post anything about my thoughts on the series in here, so let me quote myself from a  post I made on the [as] forums on the day after the finale:

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I think the only words I can form about the focus of this entire maelstrom are that, out of all the works of fiction I've seen on TV, in a movie theater, or through the pages of a book, none have touched me in such a profound and powerful way than this series has. I make it a conscious point not to rank the series I watch, because I like many of them for many different reasons, but if I ever decide to change that in the future...I think that Eureka 7 would have to shoot to the top by default. If someone had told me a year or two ago that I'd be shedding tears of joy over the relationship between a 14-year-old boy and an otherworldly girl, I'd have laughed myself silly at them. It's been an honor, a privilege, and a pure delight to have taken this journey, and at the end, all I can do is look back over the whole thing with total awe. So yes, if I could take one thing from this night and keep it with me, it'd be Renton and Eureka, and what their love for each other was able to accomplish.

I stand by every word I said there; this series was jaw-droppingly amazing and utterly heartfelt, and the ending fit it perfectly.  Watching it all unfold is definitely an experience I'll keep with me for a very long time.

 

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I'm not sure I'd go as far as jaw dropping, but it was very very good
and I'd like to see Bones come out with more... it's been the best thing on
AS since... um... hold on *thinks*

Well I can't remember back that far :blah:, and I've watched CN since before
the Sailor Moon days.

That edit really did tick me off quite a bit, as it was unnecessary and uncalled for
when it changes the ending that much. Their rerun of it unedited was appropriate
and I'm glad to see the fans are still at least listened to in some fashion.
(Now if we could just get them to dump the commercials and lousy programming.  :doubt:)

I wrote these up for another forum as closing thoughts...

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"Some things still puzzle me...

1. Eureka kept the wings (I'll assume due to Renton liking them)
2. What part of the planet was "evaporating"? If it was the scub coral then why was Belforest still intact? In that case what happened to the Earth which you might say was "inside" the core of the Eureka planet.
3. We get the 1 year later note, so what happened to the Gekko crew and Talho's child?
4. What was that motorbike and tent setup that went by just before Renton and Eureka were shown? Was that their gear or was that someone else?
5. Sadly we don't get to see the Super Ezumo do much at all after all that upgrading, it was supposed to have some additional homing laser...
6. What happened to the crew on the Ezumo? They had no fuel after giving it to the Gekko and the planet broke up...
7. What were the 7 green orbs that shot out around the planet?
8. I've read about the dub being inaccurate in places, but the wording given when the kids stopped to wish on the star seems to indicate that R&E hadn't come to the children... or they did pick them up from Holland and just hadn't come back from the woods yet. It's a minor point, but it does remain a question.
9. Because the scubs left, does that mean the trappr and wave ability has gone with them?
10. Will Eureka be a better soccer player with those wings? After all it's something that I find very few have thought of... is that Holland said that one day they all would return to face the other team again.

Some things in the manga have been said to be canonized, but others not... which makes little sense. Like Anemmonie's daughter."

The final version of the Nirvash I wasn't expecting, I'd seen the one shrouded in darkness during the opening and thought that was the last version. Don't think I like it over the Spec 2 though... particularly since it was a one seater (stander?) to begin with and no jet mode.

Eh still, E7's not a bad concept for a mod down the road... hopefully the fanbase will
continue on.
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I'll take a stab at those, if you'll let me:

1)  Eureka's wings were part of her evolution as a Coralian over the course of the series, so it wouldn't make much sense for her to lose them just like that simply because she was going to remain on Earth.  The fact that she attained that distinctive look also helps to reinforce the whole "humans and Coralians living in harmony" concept.  Plus, like you said, Renton likes them. :)

(As a side note, Renton's "Can I touch them?" wins my vote for the most innuendo-tastic line of the series. :p)

2)  As the Nirvash said during her final speech to Renton and Eureka, half of the Scub Coral was departing the Earth to journey to the "tenth plane," in order to find a way for all humans and Coralians to live together in peace, without the threat of destruction.  (Presumably, the Coralians also took with them the humans that had been absorbed by the Scub Coral, as we see images of Norbu, Sakuya, Adrock, and Diane receding with the Nirvash.)  In an overview shot of Earth near the end of the episode, we can see that large portions of the Scub Coral have vanished, revealing the planet's original surface below.  As Gonzy said, "there's no reason why there can't be more than one path to enlightenment;" the Scub Coral that left would be working in their own dimension to make cohabitation possible, just as Renton and Eureka would be on the Earth.  As for Bellforest, it was presumably on one of the portions of the Scub Coral that remains; although the series doesn't specify, I'd assume that the Coralians had enough discretion to not destroy humanity's settlements, seeing as how they want to co-exist with them and all. :p

3)  We don't get any specifics about the future of Holland, Talho, and the rest of Gekkostate, but considering the tone of the whole series, I think it's safe to say that Talho gives birth to a happy, bouncing baby, while Holland is going about trying to right the wrongs of his brother; I'd assume that the rest of Gekkostate is right there with him.

4)  If you take another look at that shot, you'll notice Dominic, Anemone, and Gulliver sitting next to the motorbike and looking up at the moon.

5)  It's true that the Super Izumo didn't have to do much in the end, but that's all the better for Jurgens and Co.; fortunately for them, the military was too occupied by the massive hordes of Antibodies to attack them. :p We did see it fire off a few shots at one point, I believe.

6)  I don't think that Jurgens necessarily gave the Gekko his entire fuel supply, and even if he had, I'm sure they were able to bum a lift from someone before too long. We do see Dominic and Anemone safe and sound at the end, after all.

7)  If I had to guess, I'd say that those orbs were some sort of signal or stimulus to the Scub Coral to begin their journey to the tenth plane.

8)  From what I've heard, the dub was just about exact to the original at that point.  From the conversation between Axel and the kids, I'm fairly sure that Renton and Eureka hadn't returned yet.  When Axel says to Maurice, "Out of all the members of this family who've ever left this town, your poppa was the only one to ever come back," he goes on to say, "The fact that I have three great-grandchildren here with me is proof of that."  That second line leads me to believe that Renton and Eureka hadn't returned in person yet, but that, for Axel, the fact that the kids are there counts equally as Renton returning.  (I'd assume that Holland dropped the kids off with Axel, seeing as how he was their only remaining family member.)  All of that being said, and again, considering the theme of the entire series, I have no doubt and my mind that the two of them will return home before too long.  (In fact, the final frame of the original Japanese broadcast of the final episode is a beautiful colored pencil sketch of Renton, Eureka, Axel, and the kids all standing together; this shot wasn't included on the Japanese DVD, so it's uncertain if it'll be on the American release.)

9)  Like I said above, half of the Scub Coral is still on the planet, so I'd guess that the trapar waves are still there.  The reffers need somewhere to lift, after all. ;)  (Speaking of which, the cover art of the final volume of the Japanese DVD release shows a young brown-haired boy with green wings and a young green-haired girl standing with surfboards on a beach...maybe Renton and Eureka's kids will inject a bit of old-school into the reffing community. :))

10)  Who knows; they might give her some sort of advantage.  If/when Gekkostate goes to play that team again, they'll need all the help they can get. :p

  

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1) Side - I was more surprised that Eureka was shown at the end of 49 to have gone
"completely jello" and yet she returned to her original state without any disfigurements
and added the wings at the start of 50. Although this might be attributed to the cluster
and her not being able to return..  The fact that Renton said the wings were warm, sort
of surprised me as well. Considering that whatever she has as a cardiovascular system,
would have to pump through the wings as well - for them to be warm. She's not solar powered..  :)

3) Sure but was the baby a Talhoan (boy) or Hollandette (girl)?  :D

4) Nope I couldn't see that in AS's run. I think the credits may have been sped up a bit.
Plus the credits themselves blocked a lot of what there was to see.

5) Yes that was right before the high speed shuttle from the lab (carrying Dr. Bear) showed up
around 48 or 49 I think. That was mostly LFO though.

8) Not to be nitpicky, but you left out Axel's "comperable" (sp?) in his statement about the kids.
The sketch can be seen at the Wikipedia E7 page... although better quality ones are around.

9) You mean this image for the forum banner... ^_^
http://z7.invisionfree.com/Eureka_Seven/index.php?s=08c360142ec25b25a5fc0aabf06ea056&showtopic=218&st=0
Granted it's a crop and enlargement... but least you can see it better than most of the DVD case shots.
If you want the case shot itself - http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k219/TheL0st0ne/Eureka%207/BCBA-2262.jpg

10) Heh well I was thinking about some sort of jump kick Eureka could do... ^_^
Least she wouldn't have to step on Holland's face to get some altitude.

Oh and for final episode purposes, screencaps listing here:
http://boards.adultswim.com/adultswim/board/message?board.id=6&message.id=3913993&view=by_date_ascending&page=39

Some nice fan art:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/Magil/1167644235843.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/Magil/1173435644697.jpg
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