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Offline IPAndrews

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Re: Cutty Sark burns..............
It's still the Cutty Sark. Sure there are only a few ashes remaining from the original boat but don't you fret it's still the same ship.
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Re: Cutty Sark burns..............
No, the Cutty Sark was built in 1869 (IIRC) in Dunbarton, Scotland. Interestingly, she was built to carry tea as fast as possible from India and the far east and was the fastest sailing ship of her time, breaking many records. Unfortunately, the same year she was built, the Suez Canal opened making it easier and quicker to transport tea from India and could not be used by sailing ships, thus making the Cutty Sark somewhat redundant for her original role.

Dekker may have been thinking about the Victory or even the Mary Rose.

Yup...victory is older..by far :
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HMS Victory stands today as the world's oldest commissioned warship. Still manned by Officers and Ratings of the Royal Navy, the Victory has seen over 220 years of almost continuous naval service.

Best known for her role in the Battle of Trafalgar, the Victory currently has a dual role as the flagship of the Commander-in-Chief Naval Home Command and as a living museum to the Georgian navy.

Launched in 1765 at Chatham Dockyard, the Victory was commissioned in 1778 and continued in active service for the next 34 years. In 1812 the Victory was retired from frontline duty and anchored in Portsmouth Harbour, on the south coast of England. For the next 110 years the Victory remained at her moorings in Portsmouth Harbour fulfilling a combination of practical and ceremonial roles.

In 1922, amid fears for her continued survival, the Victory was moved into Portsmouth's Royal Naval Dockyard and placed in No2 Dry Dock. Work then began on restoring the Victory to her 'fighting' 1805 condition.

Open to the public all year round, HMS Victory allows the visitor to explore the world of the Georgian navy, experiencing both the ship herself and the lives of the men who lived within her 'wooden world'.

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Re: Cutty Sark burns..............
Wow that sucks, she was one of the few left from the clipper ship age.  If im not mistaken she sill holds a few records for fast sailing?  I know if we lost the USS Constitution i would be pissed.  Better make sure nothing happens to the  Victory.  Heck she was old when Nel took her to Trafalgar to trounce the French
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Re: Cutty Sark burns..............
Watch Sahara  :lol:
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Re: Cutty Sark burns..............
Nah. Keelhauling implies letting them out of the water again. Keeltie them... more fitting :nod:

Trust me keel hauling is about as worse as it gets, with maybe the exception of a flogging around the fleet.  Tying them to the keel would be relatively painless, basically you would drown.  The big thing to remember about keel hauling is that the ole copper hulled man o wars would become encrusted with weed and barnacles.  So when you got keel hauled your body would be flayed apart in salt water as it got dragged across he hull.  Keel hauling in effect would have you being drowned and sliced apart to ribbons.  Not a fun experience no matter were you live
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Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: Cutty Sark burns..............
Talking of the US and saiing ships, are there any Ironclads left over from the civil war? I can't remember if any survived. I know most sunk under their own weight.

After the Civil War most of the Union ironclads were sold for scrap, though not immediately. The Confederate ships were either sunk, or burned to prevent their capture. Some of the Union monitors lasted as long as the Spanish-American War before being stricken from the navy list. If you want I can check to make certain none survive (Civil War history is a hobby of mine and I have a book listing all commissioned ships for both sides and their service records/fates), but off the top of my head I'm pretty sure none of them remain in the kind of condition you're thinking.

Closest would the USS Cairo, which was sunk by a mine in a tributary of the Mississippi. It was eventually found sometime in the '70s or '80s and what was left of it raised; there's a museum including the remains of the ship (it's partially reconstructed) near Vicksburg. I've visited the place. The Cairo is a surprisingly large vessel considering it was a river ironclad and "shallow" draft. I've seen both it and the Constitution, and the Cairo is easily one and a half times the Constitution's width and three quarters of her length, probably a bit bigger in fact.
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Re: Cutty Sark burns..............
I would need to dig up my old Sea Classics magazines but if I'm not mistaken i think One of the old CSS Ironclad Rams, Alabama? might have been raised for museum purposes. In addition i think they raised all or some of the USS Monitor, at least the turret.   Lastly i know they raised the CSS Hunley but that's a submarine.

EDIT>> Nevermind i can't find anything on a raised Confederate Ram.
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Re: Cutty Sark burns..............
Not to make light of what is obviously a very unfortunate occurrence, but this statement reminds me of a philosophical question I've heard in the past.  A man who owns a boat takes excellent care of it and replaces every single plank that shows signs of decay.  After a number of years, his efforts have led him to replace every single original piece of wood on the boat.  Can he say that he still owns the same boat, or is it a completely different vessel?

As far as I know you cannot "change" the queel which is the core of the ship ( without completly rebuilding the ship from scratch at least, in which case would then make the answer obvious ), therefore it still is the same ship.
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Re: Cutty Sark burns..............
I don't think the question was made to be taken that literally. :p

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