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Offline Ace

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Re: Bush warns of World War III if Iran goes nuclear
  You don't get into positions like that by being the moron the general populace believes him to be.

You do if you have advisors who are running the show who aren't, and a lot of money in the right places.
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Offline Roanoke

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well he's the president and we're not so he's got us beat.....

 

Offline ShadowGorrath

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Re: Bush warns of World War III if Iran goes nuclear
If the info I found was right , Iran has 12 milion active military personel ( including para-military , which is most of the forces ) . USA has aprox. 3 million ( including para-military ) . Iran is equiped pretty well , compared to USA . Not AS good , but still .

So USA's only hope if Iran goes "M.A.D." , is if USA launches their nukes . But if Iran has nukes , well ... USA is screwed up then ...

 

Offline Hellstryker

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Re: Bush warns of World War III if Iran goes nuclear
Your telling me a small third world country like iran has 12 million soldiers? excuse me but thats bull****  :doubt:

 

Offline ShadowGorrath

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Re: Bush warns of World War III if Iran goes nuclear
That's what I thought too . I still think it's bull**** . But ... Seeing as how they give every person a gun , and the para-military is about 11 million forces ( para-military is , what I understand , local people that defende the territory they live in ) . So it's kind of logical . Of course the active and reserve forces are smaller , but they're equiped pretty well . The para-military actually has a rifles and maybe grenades at best ...

 

Offline Mika

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Re: Bush warns of World War III if Iran goes nuclear
If I recall correctly, the official reports state that US has stationed something like 160000 (accurate numbers are of course a military secret) in Iraq alone, and even then there seems to be difficulties (whether it is financial or simply lack of volunteers) in finding more.

Iran has a population base of roughly 69 million, of which 15-64 year old males make up 24.1 million. An ad hoc assumption yes, but also somewhat believeable would be to divide the number by two to reach the theoretical number of men who could participate war time actions simply on the age grounds. That would make around 12 million soldiers. However, not all of these would be seen in the front lines and not all of them are in a physical shape of being able to do military service. But still this is a lot of people to contain in a ground war.

I would suppose that either US reinstates the draft or has a huge air-to-ground campaign if there is a war between US and Iran. Air power is the only part of arms where Iran cannot match US. But I suppose also that Iran has a healthy supply of modern Russian SAMs, which will lead to some casualities by the USAF.

In the end that Iran would be ruined for a decade or two, but nothing else would happen, as the extremist Islamists would probably gain even more foothold during the campaign. A huge waste of ordnance and kerosine from my point of view for no good reason.

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Offline Kosh

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Re: Bush warns of World War III if Iran goes nuclear
Iran can bite back in other ways too, not just conventionally (assuming it gets no nukes too)
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Offline DiabloRojo

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Re: Bush warns of World War III if Iran goes nuclear
You do if you have advisers who are running the show who aren't, and a lot of money in the right places.
So he's a puppet, being led around and leeched off of by other people with their own agendas?  Why is the poor man blamed for so much?  Please do tell some of the specifics so I can start a revolt against these parasites taking advantage of our cognitively deprived president!  People preying on the mentally challenged make me sick!

 

Offline Mika

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Re: Bush warns of World War III if Iran goes nuclear
I admit the thread title was risky here in HL, but I'm quite sick of reading Bush bashing myself. As already shown in the other thread about media, not all news agencies apply the same standards in reporting Bush's quotes. It is not necessarily him who writes the speeches. After the success of "axis of evil" -speech I suppose the writers are trying to duplicate the same strategy in making masses move, but at the moment it is not really working well. This "World War III" stuff is a little over the top already for me (Note that the argument was whether Iran can have a nuclear power plant! WWIII for that? But well, WWI started almost as stupidly.)

However, relating to the possible war in Iran, I would believe that it would be a strategical mistake at the moment, but Bush being the leader of that has nothing to do with it. To begin with, I cannot even see a justification for using military to stop a nuclear powerplant overseen by IAEA. Hasn't Hillary already promised to keep up the hard line towards Iran?
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Offline Asuko

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Re: Bush warns of World War III if Iran goes nuclear
I'm in the same footing here. Right now, it's a terrible move on Bush's part and obviously, his advisers would notice it.

I want more transparency about this. We can't monitor each country we see. That's just, no.
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