[Mystic]

Hi,

I have the full Turey install and I am now training after having selected the Fsport mod.
There are many problems with the training mission.

First, by searching the board, I solved the first problem related to the "\" full speed command, where the instructor would stop interacting. Solution : adjust engine power to allow going over 70 for a while. Ok.

Now I have the drone in front of me, and I am supposed to fire my primary weapon. Little problem : the ship has no weapon at this stage ! So what do I do ?

If there are further problems of the sort in the training mission, could people please list them and their solution here ? Would be nice to have all the answers in one place.
I really want to move along the training so I can start getting into the tick of things.

Thanks for your help.

Ensign Nutron

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I skipped to the second training mission, TSM103b, weapon practice, and there are no weapons on board

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Since I could not complete TSM103b, I skipped ahead again (option in the upper right corner). Bad idea. Now everytime I enter the deck, even after exiting and re-entering the game completely, which I tried a few times, I always get the series of error messages below. After closing the error windows, the game then starts with what seems to be the first mission of a campaign... I don't have access to the training missions anymore.

Now, I don't doubt this is a great game. But I have already spent several hours achieving very little. Am I going to encounter bugs like these constantly ? I need to be reassured before I commit a chunk of my life to this. There are other ways I can spend my time.

Thanks for your help.

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Error: Invalid weapon name.

In sexpression: ( when
   ( true )
   ( good-secondary-time
      "Friendly"
      100
      "Cyclops"
      "Belisarius"
   )
)
(Error appears to be: Cyclops)
File:J:\src\cvs\fs2_open_3_6_9.final\code\Mission\MissionParse.cpp
Line: 5798
[This filename points to the location of a file on the computer that built this executable]

Call stack:
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Error: Invalid subsystem name.

In sexpression: ( when
   ( true )
   ( send-message
      "Psamtik"
      "High"
      "FIRE!"
   )
   ( fire-beam
      "Psamtik"
      "turret03"
      "Belisarius"
      "turret13"
   )
)
(Error appears to be: turret03)
File:J:\src\cvs\fs2_open_3_6_9.final\code\Mission\MissionParse.cpp
Line: 5798
[This filename points to the location of a file on the computer that built this executable]

Call stack:
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Error: Invalid ship class name.

In sexpression: ( when
   ( true )
   ( tech-add-ships "GTCv Deimos" )
)
(Error appears to be: GTCv Deimos)
File:J:\src\cvs\fs2_open_3_6_9.final\code\Mission\MissionParse.cpp
Line: 5798
[This filename points to the location of a file on the computer that built this executable]

Call stack:
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[Turey]

you need to go to the campaign room and select the FS1 campaign.

[Jeff Vader]

Yup. You are currently playing the FS2 campaign under FSPort. That leads to severe weapon and ship issues. When playing mods and campaign, you need to do two things.

1. Select the desired mod with the Launcher's MOD tab (which you have obviously done).

2. Select the appropriate campaign from the Campaign Room in-game.

And now that we're on the issue of FSPort's training missions, please visit Useful Stuff (link in my signature) and download a fixed advanced training mission for FSPort. Otherwise, you won't get missiles in a latter training mission and that does suck a bit.

[Mystic]

I followed Turey's advice and selected the Main Freespace Campaign. The training missions were different than the ones I initially was given when I started the game the first time. I don't know if the 00-fixedadvtraining.vp file I placed in the fsport folder add any affect, but the training missions responded fine.
The first campaign mission I was then given is "Eve of Destruction", and a little research  on the web confirmed that this is the first mission of the Freespace 1 campaign.
So all is well for now.

Thanks guys.

[Jeff Vader]

Indeed the training missions of FS1/Port are different from the FS2 training missions. And 00-fixedadvtraining fixes a training mission that comes way later in the campaign, not in the beginning. If you don't face any more problems with training missions, you know that the fix works.

[Mystic]

Another problem 


I got to that advanced training mission where I was suppose to learn about the new shield and the new missiles. No missiles for the training.
The 00-fixedadvtraining.vp file was in the Fsport folder.
So I thought maybe I had to remove either th "00-" or "00-fixed" from the filename for the file to be picked up. How am I suppose to use that file ?
Should I paste the content in another file ?
Anyway, now when I go back to the campaign, the advance training mission does not appear anymore. I'm moved to the next campaign mission "The Darkness and the Light".
I thought maybe I could fine the training mission in the Tech room. But it's not there either.
 

[Jeff Vader]

Dammit. I was afraid this might happen.

Side note: The name of the vp doesn't matter that much but there is one thing. The game reads the vp files hierarchically. The ones that are first in alphabets are read first and if there are same files inside different vps, the ones in the vp that comes first alphabetically is used. That's why fix vps have names that include a's or 0's in the beginning of the file name: to make sure that they are being used.

My page had instructions for the training fix. You should put it in your FSPort folder and it should work. But apparently, it isn't working. Try this. It is an actual mission file, so place it in \fsport\data\missions. You most likely will have to create that folder.

[Mystic]

It gets worst Lobo. Before I follow your latest instructions...

I was looking at the regular training file (fsport-fs1_training.vp) and the fixed file you provided. It seemed that I could simply paste the section regarding that training mission from the fixed file to fsport-fs1_training.vp. Which I did (I backed up the original fsport-fs1_training.vp).

Now, When I go back to the campaign, I have been moved to another mission, "Where Eagles Dare", although I have never played the " Darkness and the Light" mission !
What give ?

Sorry folks, but it seems I will be here often asking for your help.

[Jeff Vader]

  You are somehow skipping missions. Cool. Not funny, but cool.

But as for trying to fix things. Messing around the original vps is never wise, which is why it's a good thing you took a backup. The normal procedure for fixing mission files is to first extract the particular file from the vp, then do something to it an dthen either place it to \insertgoodmodnamehere\data\missions or creating a vp where it is in an appropriate folder and placing that vp to \insertgoodmodnamehere\.

Then, it is possible to play those missions you've skipped. Start the game, select the Tech room from the main hall, open Mission Simulator and hit Ctrl + Shift + S. This'll show you all the missions in the campaign and you can play them one by one.

[Mystic]

I created the folder /mission in fsport/data, and then created the file btm-05.vp, pasting what was on your page.
The game wouldn't start at all.
So now I have restored everything back to its original state, replacing the original fsport-fs1_training.vp, removing 00-fixedadvtraining.vp, and removing the folder /mission.
Now it starts again.

I don't really understand your latest info, but I will go to the tech room hoping to find the mission I skipped. I'll just forget about the shield training mission. I just hope that the storyline will just trigger in the right order after that.

Thanks for your help.

[Mystic]

Maybe there is hope after all.

After going to the tech room and selecting campaign in the mission simulator, then hitting ctrl-sift-s, the advanced training mission and the "Darkness and the light missions" appeared. The advanced training mission is not fixed, but it is there.
I was curious and then when back to the campaign, and "miraculously", the order was restored, as I was offered the "Darkness and the light" as the next mission.

So how would I create the "fixed" training mission again ? Since when I created the /mission folder in /data the game wouldn't start. Or maybe it's because I named the file I placed in the /mission folder wrong  ? btm-05.vp is wrong ?
Dealing with this program is a bigger job than tackling the Shivans...


By the way, is there a troubleshooting thread or website somewhere where these and other problems I am bound to encounter are explained ? I have been to the Wiki, the Oracle, I searched this forum. But I did not manage to find the answers to my problems without your help in this thread.

[jr2]

Ehh... whoah... .vp files are the same theory as .zip files, except without compression.  Mission files for FS1 are .fsm  So rename to .fsm and that should work.  EDIT: Sorry, .fs2 *smacks self*

And why couldn't you just rename the advmissionspatch.vp or w/e to 0001advmissionspatch.vp so it gets higher priority?  Sorry I only scanned this thread; I will re-read it and post any other things I come up with or mistakes I made.  EDIT: okay, it's already named 00-fix or whatever, so never mind this part.

Now:

It gets worst Lobo. Before I follow your latest instructions...

I was looking at the regular training file (fsport-fs1_training.vp) and the fixed file you provided. It seemed that I could simply paste the section regarding that training mission from the fixed file to fsport-fs1_training.vp. Which I did (I backed up the original fsport-fs1_training.vp).  No, you're supposed to leave fsport-fs1_training.vp there and also include 00-fixedadvtraining.vp in the same folder

Now, When I go back to the campaign, I have been moved to another mission, "Where Eagles Dare", although I have never played the " Darkness and the Light" mission !
What give ?

Sorry folks, but it seems I will be here often asking for your help.

[Mystic]

Ok. I got it. I thought the file had to be named .vp, since that's all I saw in the folders.
Now I have a working file in /data/missions and I have just completed the advance shield/ interceptor training.

Thanks guys.

[Jeff Vader]

You might want to acquire a vp viewer, like Maja, and take a look at a vp. Compare what you see in a vp to any mod folder or even your \freespace\ directory. Then you'll hopefully understand just what they do in this game.