[sixlaneve]

Hi All!

I just did a complete install of freespace on my mac, using the Java Installer.

I am experiencing graphic glitches, as some models are missing (or some parts), space debris are just big white dots, nebulas and sun do not have transparency (so you see a black box behind the sun or behind the nebula), some 3D models do not load on ship selection and on weapon selection and I have a white box instead of some text, and a green box in the hud, where the model of the targeted ship should appear...

any idea on this? I am using a Mac with leopard.

last summer I had FS installed on Tiger, and everything was smooth and fine.

[Jeff Vader]

Follow the Latest builds for Linux and Mac link in my signature and download the latest stable 3.6.10 build. Run the debug version. Quit. There is now a fs2_open.log in \freespace2\data\. Post it here as an attachment or using the "code" tags.

If you were using the 3.6.9 build, did you remember to enable jpg/tga textures?

[sixlaneve]

Follow the Latest builds for Linux and Mac link in my signature and download the latest stable 3.6.10 build. Run the debug version. Quit. There is now a fs2_open.log in \freespace2\data\. Post it here as an attachment or using the "code" tags.

If you were using the 3.6.9 build, did you remember to enable jpg/tga textures?

Hi Lobo,

yes, jpa/tga is on.

I am just downloading the latest build (before the link was broken)

[Jeff Vader]

Hmm. Well, if there are other 3.6.10 builds that the Installer has downloaded, use one of them. Or even the 3.6.9 debug will do, if things boil down to it.

[sixlaneve]

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==========================================================================
DEBUG SPEW: No debug_filter.cfg found, so only general, error, and warning
categories can be shown and no debug_filter.cfg info will be saved.
==========================================================================
Opened log '/Users/denis/Library/FS2_Open/data/fs2_open.log', Thu Aug 21 18:41:39 2008 ...
FreeSpace version: 3.6.10
Passed cmdline options:
  -spec_exp 11
  -spec_static 0,8
  -spec_point 0,8
  -spec_tube 0,4
  -ambient_factor 73,00
  -env
  -mipmap
  -missile_lighting
  -glow
  -spec
  -cache_bitmaps
  -dualscanlines
  -orbradar
  -rearm_timer
  -3dwarp
  -ship_choice_3d
  -mod destinyofpeace,fsport,mediavps
Building file index...
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/destinyofpeace/fsport-destinyofpeace-voice.vp' with a checksum of 0x169f0cd4
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/destinyofpeace/fsport-destinyofpeace.vp' with a checksum of 0x63195fb6
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/destinyofpeace/mandalaprime.vp' with a checksum of 0xd6a68e0c
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/fsport/FS1OGGcutscenepack.vp' with a checksum of 0x6b9172f7
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/fsport/fsport-fs1_training.vp' with a checksum of 0x4f333bc2
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/fsport/fsport-glow.vp' with a checksum of 0xb9892a5f
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/fsport/fsport-hi_res.vp' with a checksum of 0x9b3bb212
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/fsport/fsport-missions.vp' with a checksum of 0xa64dd452
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/fsport/fsport-shine.vp' with a checksum of 0x49b0f292
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/fsport/fsport3_0_4.vp' with a checksum of 0xe550591d
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/fsport/sparky_hi_fs1.vp' with a checksum of 0x0fd3986f
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/fsport/stu_fs1.vp' with a checksum of 0x5a3e68e7
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/fsport/tango_fs1.vp' with a checksum of 0xbcf2447f
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/fsport/warble_fs1.vp' with a checksum of 0x49c6c98d
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/mediavps/mp-710_adveffects.vp' with a checksum of 0x55caf318
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/mediavps/mp-710_effects.vp' with a checksum of 0xe22bdcc2
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/mediavps/mp-710_models.vp' with a checksum of 0x20b9069a
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/mediavps/mv_adveffects.vp' with a checksum of 0xfeb54970
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/mediavps/mv_core.vp' with a checksum of 0xb6cb1f6a
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/mediavps/mv_effects.vp' with a checksum of 0x1986a43c
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/mediavps/mv_models.vp' with a checksum of 0x2f8a711a
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/mediavps/mv_music.vp' with a checksum of 0xcca92482
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/mediavps/mv_textures.vp' with a checksum of 0x2c43a80e
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/FS2OGGcutscenepack.vp' with a checksum of 0x84396e99
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/multi-mission-pack.vp' with a checksum of 0x377695e0
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/multi-voice-pack.vp' with a checksum of 0xd50e7442
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/root_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xce10d76c
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/smarty_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xddeb3b1e
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/sparky_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x164fe65a
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/sparky_hi_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xa11d56f1
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/stu_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd77da83a
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/tango1_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x4c25221e
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/tango2_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x86920b82
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/tango3_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x705e8d71
Found root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/warble_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd85c305d
Searching root '/Users/denis/Library/FS2_Open/destinyofpeace/' ... 26 files
Searching root '/Users/denis/Library/FS2_Open/fsport/' ... 0 files
Searching root '/Users/denis/Library/FS2_Open/mediavps/' ... 21 files
Searching root '/Users/denis/Library/FS2_Open/' ... 54 files
Searching root '/Applications/Descent Freespace/destinyofpeace/' ... 0 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/destinyofpeace/fsport-destinyofpeace-voice.vp' ... 199 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/destinyofpeace/fsport-destinyofpeace.vp' ... 20 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/destinyofpeace/mandalaprime.vp' ... 2 files
Searching root '/Applications/Descent Freespace/fsport/' ... 0 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/fsport/FS1OGGcutscenepack.vp' ... 10 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/fsport/fsport-fs1_training.vp' ... 226 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/fsport/fsport-glow.vp' ... 6 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/fsport/fsport-hi_res.vp' ... 108 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/fsport/fsport-missions.vp' ... 128 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/fsport/fsport-shine.vp' ... 165 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/fsport/fsport3_0_4.vp' ... 645 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/fsport/sparky_hi_fs1.vp' ... 57 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/fsport/stu_fs1.vp' ... 1277 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/fsport/tango_fs1.vp' ... 69 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/fsport/warble_fs1.vp' ... 110 files
Searching root '/Applications/Descent Freespace/mediavps/' ... 1 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/mediavps/mp-710_adveffects.vp' ... 2063 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/mediavps/mp-710_effects.vp' ... 91 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/mediavps/mp-710_models.vp' ... 31 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/mediavps/mv_adveffects.vp' ... 299 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/mediavps/mv_core.vp' ... 88 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/mediavps/mv_effects.vp' ... 580 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/mediavps/mv_models.vp' ... 399 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/mediavps/mv_music.vp' ... 15 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/mediavps/mv_textures.vp' ... 1526 files
Searching root '/Applications/Descent Freespace/' ... 1 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/FS2OGGcutscenepack.vp' ... 10 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/multi-mission-pack.vp' ... 110 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/multi-voice-pack.vp' ... 307 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/root_fs2.vp' ... 157 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/smarty_fs2.vp' ... 10 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/sparky_fs2.vp' ... 3027 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/sparky_hi_fs2.vp' ... 1337 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/stu_fs2.vp' ... 2355 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/tango1_fs2.vp' ... 32 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/tango2_fs2.vp' ... 15 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/tango3_fs2.vp' ... 10 files
Searching root pack '/Applications/Descent Freespace/warble_fs2.vp' ... 52 files
Found 43 roots and 15639 files.
AutoLang: Language auto-detection successful...
Setting language to English
Initializing OpenAL...
  OpenAL Vendor     : Any
  OpenAL Renderer   : Software
  OpenAL Version    : OpenAL 1.2.1

... OpenAL successfully initialized!
Failed to init speech
Initializing OpenGL graphics device at 640x480 with 16-bit color...
  Initializing SDL...
  Requested SDL Video values = R: 5, G: 6, B: 5, depth: 16, double-buffer: 1
  Actual SDL Video values    = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 16, double-buffer: 1
  OpenGL Vendor     : ATI Technologies Inc.
  OpenGL Renderer   : ATI Radeon 9600 XT OpenGL Engine
  OpenGL Version    : 2.0 ATI-1.5.28

  Using extension "GL_EXT_fog_coord".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_multitexture".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_add".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_compression".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_combine".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_draw_range_elements".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object".
  Using extension "GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_framebuffer_object".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_rectangle".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_bgra".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_cube_map".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_point_sprite".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_shading_language_100".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_shader_objects".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_shader".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_fragment_shader".
  Unable to find extension "GL_ATI_shader_texture_lod".

  Max texture units: 8 (8)
  Max elements vertices: 2048
  Max elements indices: 150000
  Max texture size: 2048x2048
  Can use compressed textures: YES
  Texture compression available: YES
  Using trilinear texture filter.
... OpenGL init is complete!
Size of bitmap info = 705 KB
Size of bitmap extra info = 40 bytes
ANI cursorweb with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
GRAPHICS: Initializing default colors...
SCRIPTING: Beginning initialization sequence...
SCRIPTING: Beginning Lua initialization...
LUA: Opening LUA state...
LUA: Initializing base Lua libraries...
LUA: Beginning ADE initialization
ADE: Initializing enumeration constants...
ADE: Assigning Lua session...
SCRIPTING: Beginning main hook parse sequence....
Wokka!  Error opening file (scripting.tbl)!
TABLES: Unable to parse 'scripting.tbl'!  Error code = 5.
SCRIPTING: Inititialization complete.
SCRIPTING: Splash screen overrides checked
SCRIPTING: Splash hook has been run
SCRIPTING: Splash screen conditional hook has been run
Using high memory settings...
Wokka!  Error opening file (interface.tbl)!
WMCGUI: Unable to parse 'interface.tbl'!  Error code = 5.
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-sdf.tbm' ...
ANI radar1 with size 130x106 (17.2% wasted)
No joysticks found
Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_music-mus.tbm' ...
Wokka!  Error opening file (armor.tbl)!
TABLES: Unable to parse 'armor.tbl'!  Error code = 5.
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-wxp.tbm' ...
BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp20.eff) with 64 frames at 35 fps.
ANI Lamprey_Impact with size 80x80 (37.5% wasted)
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_models-wep.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_flak-wep.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-wep.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_tech-wep.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_shockwave-wep.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_missiles-wep.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'fs1-aip.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_textures-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_models-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_trails-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_dragon-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_turretangle-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_tech-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_shockwave-shp.tbm' ...
loading animated cursor "cursor"
ANI cursor with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
Ships.tbl is : INVALID!!!!
Weapons.tbl is : INVALID!!!!
cfile_init() took 11295
Got event GS_EVENT_GAME_INIT (49) in state NOT A VALID STATE (0)
ANI cursor.ani with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
Got event GS_EVENT_MAIN_MENU (0) in state GS_STATE_INITIAL_PLAYER_SELECT (37)
Someone passed an extension to bm_load for file 'GTA.pcx'
ANI main1-m1.ani with size 186x230 (10.2% wasted)
ANI main1-m2.ani with size 117x140 (45.3% wasted)
ANI main1-d1.ani with size 69x77 (39.8% wasted)
ANI main1-d6.ani with size 57x45 (29.7% wasted)
ANI main1-d3.ani with size 146x131 (48.8% wasted)
ANI main1-d4.ani with size 183x103 (19.5% wasted)
ANI main1-d5.ani with size 85x146 (43.0% wasted)
ANI main1-d2.ani with size 102x74 (42.2% wasted)
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.527 (0.527)
Got event GS_EVENT_TECH_MENU (11) in state GS_STATE_MAIN_MENU (1)
Techroom successfully initialized, now changing tab...
Loading model 'fighter04.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'fighter04.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x5ce5f357, IBX checksum: 0x4e326dd2 -- "fighter04.pof"
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.870 (0.870)
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.722 (0.722)
TECH ROOM: Dumping excess ship textures...
Loading model 'freighter02.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'freighter02.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xd8fb2d82, IBX checksum: 0xfa87e07a -- "freighter02.pof"
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.628 (0.628)
TECH ROOM: Dumping excess ship textures...
Loading model 'probe-terran.pof'
IBX: Starting a new IBX for 'probe-terran.pof'.
Model probe-terran.pof has a null moment of inertia!  (This is only a problem if the model is a ship.)
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.367 (0.367)
TECH ROOM: Dumping excess ship textures...
Loading model 'cargo02.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'cargo02.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x18299b2b, IBX checksum: 0xfdbe723d -- "cargo02.pof"
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.497 (0.497)
TECH ROOM: Dumping excess ship textures...
Loading model 'transport02.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'transport02.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x0043399e, IBX checksum: 0x0e0b0873 -- "transport02.pof"
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.558 (0.558)
TECH ROOM: Dumping excess ship textures...
Loading model 'cruiser01.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'cruiser01.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x11f1f259, IBX checksum: 0x8f3dda46 -- "cruiser01.pof"
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 1.976 (1.976)
TECH ROOM: Dumping excess ship textures...
Loading model 'bomber07.pof'
IBX: Starting a new IBX for 'bomber07.pof'.
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.829 (0.829)
Called captureCallback()!
TECH ROOM: Dumping excess ship textures...
Loading model 'escapepod02.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'escapepod02.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x4082bea9, IBX checksum: 0x3f561679 -- "escapepod02.pof"
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.393 (0.393)
TECH ROOM: Dumping excess ship textures...
Loading model 'freighter04.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'freighter04.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x00d5ea6c, IBX checksum: 0xd8cf3a68 -- "freighter04.pof"
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 1.117 (1.117)
TECH ROOM: Dumping excess ship textures...
Loading model 'GunPlatform02.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'GunPlatform02.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x80c87898, IBX checksum: 0x7c193faf -- "GunPlatform02.pof"
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.256 (0.256)
TECH ROOM: Dumping excess ship textures...
TECH ROOM: Dumping excess ship textures...
TECH ROOM: Dumping excess ship textures...
Loading model 'escapepod01.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'escapepod01.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x151df52e, IBX checksum: 0x564d0002 -- "escapepod01.pof"
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.445 (0.445)
Loading model 'capital01.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'capital01.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x2833bf1d, IBX checksum: 0x2445d503 -- "capital01.pof"
Warning: Ignoring unrecognized subsystem fighterbay, believed to be in ship capital01.pof
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 2.266 (2.266)
Got event GS_EVENT_MAIN_MENU (0) in state GS_STATE_TECH_MENU (7)
Freeing all existing models...
ANI main1-m1.ani with size 186x230 (10.2% wasted)
ANI main1-m2.ani with size 117x140 (45.3% wasted)
ANI main1-d1.ani with size 69x77 (39.8% wasted)
ANI main1-d6.ani with size 57x45 (29.7% wasted)
ANI main1-d3.ani with size 146x131 (48.8% wasted)
ANI main1-d4.ani with size 183x103 (19.5% wasted)
ANI main1-d5.ani with size 85x146 (43.0% wasted)
ANI main1-d2.ani with size 102x74 (42.2% wasted)
Got event GS_EVENT_QUIT_GAME (5) in state GS_STATE_MAIN_MENU (1)
STUB: dscap_close in /Users/taylor/Desktop/fs2_open-20080717/projects/Xcode/../../code/sound/ds.cpp at line 4378, thread 175
Freeing all existing models...
... Log closed, Thu Aug 21 18:42:53 2008
 

[Jeff Vader]

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  -spec_static 0,8
  -spec_point 0,8
  -spec_tube 0,4
  -ambient_factor 73,00
 I have this certain feeling that you should use period (.) with the values instead of comma (,).

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Initializing OpenGL graphics device at 640x480 with 16-bit color...
 Any particular reason why you're running at 640x480 and, more importantly, with 16-bit colours? 1024x768 and 32-bit are a lot more fun.

Not sure if these are related to the issue, but it definitely doesn't hurt to fix them now.

[sixlaneve]

nah, aint that perhaps I should download again the .vp, but I hoped that I could avoid it...

about the resolution, my mac is not that powerful... when a cruiser explodes the processor has a hard time!

[Jeff Vader]

The MediaVPs are more of a strain than the resolution. So, if there are severe slowdowns, crank up the resolution and don't use the MediaVPs.

For kicks, you could try a regular 3.6.10 build and see if it works.

[sixlaneve]

errr.....

even without the mediavps and the command line settings it has the same problems.....   well, the ursa looks more like a cardboard box

[sixlaneve]

ok, I tried with the latest media vps 3.6.10... some improvement, but still some models missing, like the GTF Apollo

[Jeff Vader]

Not all HTL FS1 ships are included in the MediaVPs (if any). Some of them have to be downloaded separately. FreeSpaceMods is a good place for finding them.

[sixlaneve]

I am a bit confused about this... I did not had any of this problem few months ago :F

[sixlaneve]

The MediaVPs are more of a strain than the resolution. So, if there are severe slowdowns, crank up the resolution and don't use the MediaVPs.

For kicks, you could try a regular 3.6.10 build and see if it works.

hey, I just tried to put it in the same resolution as my system.... it looks amazing and it's not that slow.

[Admiral_Stones]

Actually, it's known that FS has big graphical glitches on Leopard. IIRC.

[Jeff Vader]

Not to mention keyboard glitches. Troublesome...

[sixlaneve]

Actually, it's known that FS has big graphical glitches on Leopard. IIRC.

Oh nice...

better going back to Tiger then ...

Lobo, i fixed the Kb problems...

[Jeff Vader]

But that doesn't mean they weren't there originally.

[sixlaneve]

I dunno.... when I used the Open Installer with Tiger I didn't have all this problems.... I should have kept a copy of the old FS folder