[killface]

Hi all,

I am having a devil of time trying to get the subtitles to work during in-game activity.  Every time I try it, no matter what values I set for the X, Y, Z coordinates or the time to display value, NOTHING shows up on screen.  Words of wisdom, anybody???   

[FUBAR-BDHR]

Never tried them but my advice would be to open up a mission in FRED that has them working correctly and see how it's done.

[killface]

What's an example of a mission that uses subtitles?  Don't think any of the FS2 missions did, so I'm guessing you're referring to something else...

[Stormkeeper]

Blue Planet. Its used for quite a number of missions, I just can't remember clearly which ones they are ... I think Derelict uses them too, for the asteroid mission.

[Cobra]

Uh, nope. Those were training messages.

[ShadowGorrath]

The intro cutscene of Blue Planet uses subtitles.

[Rodo]

The intro cutscene of Blue Planet uses subtitles.

Yes, you can use that one, I used those and works just fine.

[CP5670]

You may be better off avoiding subtitles completely and using training messages instead. Last I checked, the subtitles had several problems with scaling and positioning between resolutions, and even if you could get them to look right, they wouldn't look the same on other computers. (at high resolutions, they become microscopic and very difficult to read)

[Mobius]

Hi all,

I am having a devil of time trying to get the subtitles to work during in-game activity.  Every time I try it, no matter what values I set for the X, Y, Z coordinates or the time to display value, NOTHING shows up on screen.  Words of wisdom, anybody???   

There are no Z coordinates in subtitles. Maybe switching to training messages is the best thing to do, but try checking the SEXP and see if there's something weird on it. FRED provides description of all SEXPs, read them

[Rodo]

Last I checked, the subtitles had several problems with scaling and positioning between resolutions

they still do, but you can work with them, you just have to make the text as small as you can and If you have to make a long comment, then the best choice will always be placing a second sexp... but slightly moved downwards, so it does not interfere with the first line of text.

the size of the text is not a problem, seems to work just fine on any type of screen config.

[Mobius]

Depends...if you want the subtitles to be centered you have less issues.

[LeGuille]

For the files,( ie subtitle.tga), Do they need to be somewhere specific? During editing process, where does FRED2_O_INF recognize these subtitles to be?

[Skullar]

1. Subtitles have to be in the /data/maps folder, otherwise they won't work.
2. When they are .tga or .jpg, the engines considers them as textures. Be sure to have enabled the use of those textures in the launcher !!! If you don't NOTHING will show up.
3. Refer to them by filename only. I forgot if you have to state the file type ending as well, just try out.

[Dilmah G]

Last I checked, the subtitles had several problems with scaling and positioning between resolutions

they still do, but you can work with them, you just have to make the text as small as you can and If you have to make a long comment, then the best choice will always be placing a second sexp... but slightly moved downwards, so it does not interfere with the first line of text.

the size of the text is not a problem, seems to work just fine on any type of screen config.

Yea there's not a huge issue with txt size, I play 1440x900 and was able to read the subtitiles easily on blueplanet

[CP5670]

Last I checked, the subtitles had several problems with scaling and positioning between resolutions

they still do, but you can work with them, you just have to make the text as small as you can and If you have to make a long comment, then the best choice will always be placing a second sexp... but slightly moved downwards, so it does not interfere with the first line of text.

the size of the text is not a problem, seems to work just fine on any type of screen config.

Yea there's not a huge issue with txt size, I play 1440x900 and was able to read the subtitiles easily on blueplanet

Do they actually scale though? The text should be the same size at any resolution, like all the other HUD elements. I use 2048x1536 and used to find them nearly impossible to read, but I haven't tried them out recently.

[Rodo]

I didn't have troubles with the size of the letters, I tested it on a high resolution screen and the only problem was the fact that the coordinates X & Y are not the same for different screen resolutions.

maybe this trouble is a serious issue when you define the text size directly from the sexp (I don't remember well but I think there's an option for this).

[Mobius]

1. Subtitles have to be in the /data/maps folder, otherwise they won't work.
2. When they are .tga or .jpg, the engines considers them as textures. Be sure to have enabled the use of those textures in the launcher !!! If you don't NOTHING will show up.
3. Refer to them by filename only. I forgot if you have to state the file type ending as well, just try out.

1) I placed my image subtitles in data/hud and they work perfectly;
2) Are you sure? INFA doesn't make use of TGAs, nor does its launcher, but I think image subtitles in TGA format work;
3) Filename only