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Offline Androgeos Exeunt

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Re: New to freespace... how long till i can play?
Alternatively, we can just profit from having higher post counts replying to newcomers. :drevil:
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Re: New to freespace... how long till i can play?
Cathode...rayon....tube...?  :eek:

It's just RAY, haloboy.
I know, I just couldn't remember and said that for the sake of how nobody really knows. :P
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Obviously everyone knows but you  :D

 

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Re: New to freespace... how long till i can play?
Holymotherfrakkingsonofa*****! A CRT screen! Talk about old technology, they've got to have been phazed out, what, 5, 10 years ago? :p


I still use CRT monitors. I have a 19" Compaq Trinitron CRT monitor, and a 17" Insignia monitor on loan from my brother. The 19" is showing its age, but it still works and the color is superb (and even better with the nVidia display optmizations), and you can't beat the performance of a CRT with almost any LCD/plasma.

When I move out of my parents' house, I will get LCDs.
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Re: New to freespace... how long till i can play?
Holymotherfrakkingsonofa*****! A CRT screen! Talk about old technology, they've got to have been phazed out, what, 5, 10 years ago? :p


I still use CRT monitors. I have a 19" Compaq Trinitron CRT monitor, and a 17" Insignia monitor on loan from my brother. The 19" is showing its age, but it still works and the color is superb (and even better with the nVidia display optmizations), and you can't beat the performance of a CRT with almost any LCD/plasma.

When I move out of my parents' house, I will get LCDs.

I was going to say myself, I also have a 19" Compaq V900 CRT and love it! Alright it's not wide screen, but I don want or need that! The colour and clarity are superb, I can even forgive it for the scratches on the glass! I just need a better card to really push it! {Geforce FX 128mb 5200  :ick: }
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Re: New to freespace... how long till i can play?
What a shocker. I have a Compaq P900.
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Re: New to freespace... how long till i can play?
Well, hey...CRT: No ghosting, no dead pixels, no grey blacks...

Just remember to keep magnets away from the screen. :blah:
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Re: New to freespace... how long till i can play?
Well, hey...CRT: No ghosting, no dead pixels, no grey blacks...

Just remember to keep magnets away from the screen. :blah:

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Re: New to freespace... how long till i can play?
I thought degauss is now done automatically.

Speaking of CRTs, I still use one for my PC.
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Re: New to freespace... how long till i can play?
CRTs can still have dead pixels, but the likelihood is greatly lower than that of an LCD.
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"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." --Thomas Jefferson

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Re: New to freespace... how long till i can play?
What always bugged me about CRTs were just how fuzzy the image was...it annoys me.

But maybe that's just because it's interlaced and the resolution is so low on broadcast television. I heard PAL has different variations in resolution, but I think that's only in HD broadcasting.
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Re: New to freespace... how long till i can play?
Wait, what? PAL has a higher resolution (720*576, as opposed to 720*486 for NTSC), but a lower framerate (50 Hz as opposed to 60 Hz for NTSC). And the fuzziness is more a function of the input signal, just compare the antenna signal to a RGB connection. The easiest test for this are consoles. Most of these come with a CVBS video connector, which gives a notably fuzzier image than a RGB cable.
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Re: New to freespace... how long till i can play?
NTSC standard dictates 525 lines, but not all lines contain visual elements, so you get 480 lines. Depending on the TV, it may have the same or less lines displayed. The horizontal pixel measurement depends on the TV since that part of the signal was always analog, and each device reads and displays it differently. NTSC uses 30 frames per second, with 60Hz interlaced; one frame is made of two fields, so 30 fps shows smoothly on 60Hz.

Televisions use interlaced scanning to make up for the low frame rate of a broadcasted signal depending on whether it's NTSC or PAL (60Hz in NTSC to smoothly match the 30fps of films, 25 fps for PAL's 50Hz); two fields, containing one vsync pulse each, create one frame.

In modern hardware following the VGA standard, interlaced scanning is avoided as much as possible, so you have what a TV would call "progressive scan." PC monitors often do not use interlaced scanning, and so the picture quality is higher.

The lowest refresh rate I have seen in PC graphics settings is 56Hz, though often it's set to 60Hz. I use 85Hz because my eyes are sensitive enough that I can see the screen refreshing (looks like rippling light); however, when I use an LCD I set the refresh rate to 60Hz as a liquid crystal display does not use an electron gun to produce the image, but rather a control matrix and a panel of thin film transistor (TFT) pixels. The refresh rate in a game--especially if you use vsync--can be computationally intensive, and that's why you need a better computer to do higher refresh rates and higher resolutions in games with vsync on.

VGA (640x480, 16 colors) is comparable to 480i on a TV, for a point of reference.

The fuzziness could come from a faulty shadow mask in the tube, or low dot pitch. I have found that CRT monitors with low dot pitch--such as my Compaq P900 19"--have a crisper image because the pixels are closer together.


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"If the American people ever allow the banks to control the issuance of their currency... the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property, until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." --Thomas Jefferson

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." --Thomas Jefferson

"Determine never to be idle...It is wonderful how much may be done if we are always doing." --Thomas Jefferson