[Thaeris]

Unfortunately, Stormkeeper, the accursed enemy without has already laid waste to the world of Vasuda...

[Nuke]

the helbat was a pirate version that was faster and more manuverable but didt have as strong shields or any missiles. was meant as a fast manuverable dogfighter for puttng guns to enemy and filling their hull with holes. this puppy looks damn cool though. im either gonna discontinue the helbat or remake it from the htl version of the ulysses model. this ship is in a class of its own.

[peterv]

the helbat was a pirate version that was faster and more manuverable but didt have as strong shields or any missiles. was meant as a fast manuverable dogfighter for puttng guns to enemy and filling their hull with holes. this puppy looks damn cool though. im either gonna discontinue the helbat or remake it from the htl version of the ulysses model. this ship is in a class of its own.

Indeed it is 
And please, remake the Helbat.

[TrashMan]

I shal name it the Bat-Fighter! Quickly Bat-boy, to the Bat-destroyer!

[Nuke]

if the fs upgrade project has continued their policy of not changing the uv space then that actually makes making an htl hellbat a lot easyer since i wouldnt ave to retexture anything, just re-add the new geometry.

[Vasudan Admiral]

Our what policy?

[Nuke]

didnt you guys have a policy of not changing uv space when doing htl models? i mean if the htl uly uses the same uv space as the old one, then i could use the existing helbat maps on the htl model, then just add in the geometry tweaks. thinking back the helbat is one of the more fun pirate ships to fly, id hate to just pluck it from the mod because its model sucks.

[Dragon]

It was present when Mediavps had separated model and textures .vps, so it was possible to have retail models with improved textures, or HTL models with retail textures.
Now we have MV_Assets that contains both, so there this policy no longer needed.

[Vasudan Admiral]

Nope, it's always been just 'do it however you like, but use as few textures as possible and don't waste polys 'kind of thing. Some models do keep the UVs, others don't.

[Nuke]

well if it does it will save me a ****load of time