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Offline Nuke

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crash course in performance tuning
having had my gaming rig functional for the past few months ive finally decided it needed a performance tuning. heres the hardware:

memory
1066 mhz ddr2 with 5-5-5-15-2t timing

cpu
c2q q9550 2.83 ghz 1333mhz fsb

semi-cheap mobo

the mobo is rated to handle a 1333fsb and 1066mhz memory. my main issue is that i dont have a clue how fsb relates to memory speed anymore. back in the old days i remember they had to be the same. and after searching through hardware guides i really cant find a difinitive answer. right now im gonna set the settings and see how see runs, hopefully it wont explode again. right now both memory and fsb are running @ 800 mhz, way below their design rating.

*update*
i set the jumpers for 1333 fsb, and changed the ratios so that my memory clocks at 1001 mhz. its close and seems somewhat satable. and the cpu is clocking at a full 2.83 ghz. so far memory tests havent failed. but with 8gb testing will take all day.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2009, 09:37:54 am by Nuke »
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Re: crash course in performance tuning
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You'd be surprised how much of your performance is being sucked up by windows......
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Re: crash course in performance tuning
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You'd be surprised how much of your performance is being sucked up by windows......

thats actually not a bad idea seeing as its running vista 64. its a fresh install but im gonna go ahead and order an oem copy of windows 7 for it. besides all my data is on d: :D

*another update* memtest didnt like those settings, after about 7% int the tests memory errors cropped up. i downclocked the memoryback to 800 to see if it had anything to with the cpy multipliers. its 15% through without an error.
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Offline CP5670

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Re: crash course in performance tuning
That memory runs at 2.1V. Do you have that set correctly? It should work at its advertised speed.

The base FSB speed on that C2Q is 333, and you double that to get the memory speed. You can also use a memory ratio to change the memory speed further. The multiplier on your CPU is 8.5.

Beyond about 700mhz though, the memory speed makes practically no difference at all. It's only useful for getting the CPU speed up.

 

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Re: crash course in performance tuning
yea it is. i was reading some info and i dont think i can clock the memory at 1066 since im running 4 modules. someone on the corsair forum suggested i ramp up voltage to the north bridge as well. the memory is technically 800mhz which is supposed to be overclockable to 1066. frankly i think factory recommended overclocks are scary for a couple reasons. the first of which is tricking you to think you are buying faster ram, and the fact that ive always considered overclocking bad in terms of system life expectancy. even on my old high end asus mobo i never got this ram up to 1066 in a stable manor. at least i managed to get my cpu to clock at the advertised rate.
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Re: crash course in performance tuning
Seriously either strip down windows or ditch it entirely. One of the things the original xbox proved was that what holds PC's back in terms of gaming performance was the OS.
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Re: crash course in performance tuning
i always strip and rape windows whenever possible. services get killed, scheduled tasks anihilated, boot brograms removed. seriously by the time i get done thers nothing left. i wish somone would hack vista basic to include aero and id use that.
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Re: crash course in performance tuning
i always strip and rape windows whenever possible. services get killed, scheduled tasks anihilated, boot brograms removed. seriously by the time i get done thers nothing left. i wish somone would hack vista basic to include aero and id use that.

That might actually have been a good OS!  :lol:

...I'd use it, too.
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Re: crash course in performance tuning
think about it. what they advertise as an os really isnt an os at all, its a software suite that just happens to include an os. just looking at the programs list at all the non-essential programs that come with windows that i never use: media player, media center, photo gallery, meeting space (does this actually do anything, net meeting was better), contacts, calender, internet explorer, windows games, dvd maker, messenger, mail, movie maker (the only one i actually use). none of this is essential to operating the system (cept maybe internet explorer, i need something to download firefox with :D ). this is all application software and should be independent of the os. even things you may consider essential, like the web browser is still an application, it shouldnt be part of the os (the fact that its integrated so deeply with the os explains 99.9% of window's traditional security holes). when i buy an operating system i want something that i can run software on, i dont want it to be the only software i run.

dos, early mac os, some lightwight linux distros (not that i can name any), even win 95/98/nt/2000 are good examples of operating systems that didnt include a lot of unneccisary features. they may not have been very good oses, but they provide enough of a foundation so that you can run the software you want to run. thats the role the os should play. a place to build your house on, not the whole ****ing building, lawn and pickid fence.
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