[Nuclear1]

Exactly.  One Navy helicopter unloading food and medicine does more good for us in the long-term than an entire aerial bombing campaign over Baghdad.

[Colonol Dekker]

This is entering the realm of non-freespace discussion.

[Mongoose]

I'm gonna just boot this wholesale to GD, as it's been along those lines almost since the beginning.  I'm not even sure where it was split from to begin with.

[Scotty]

It came from "A Celebration of FreeSpace" when someone posted a picture of an Orion next to the WTC.

[General Battuta]

Well, now Liberator can't post in it, but so be it. He didn't seem to know what was going on.

[Snail]

And the thing where you can't sanitize an area because there are innocents in the area is a bogus standard to hold any military up to, if they're heinous enough to use civvies as shields, well it's just too bad for the civvies.

John is a terrorist.

John is hiding in New York City.

Is it ok to blow up New York City?

[Mongoose]

Well, now Liberator can't post in it, but so be it. He didn't seem to know what was going on.

I thought about that, but it still deserved the boot over here regardless.  I don't need this sort of thing cluttering up my folder.

[Nuclear1]

And the thing where you can't sanitize an area because there are innocents in the area is a bogus standard to hold any military up to, if they're heinous enough to use civvies as shields, well it's just too bad for the civvies.

John is a terrorist.

John is hiding in New York City.

Is it ok to blow up New York City?

HAMMERDOWN IS IN EFFECT--TOP 15 MINUTES.  IF YOU CAN HEAR THE SIRENS YOU ARE IN THE BLAST ZONE.

[Colonol Dekker]

I like that bit.

But the brunette exploding made me sad.
I could have scored where cameraman failed.

[StarSlayer]

*ignores most of the thread*

Do we know that beam cannons are only capable of firing quarter football field wide energy columns that crack a planet's crust?  Couldn't they siphon the juice down to a point so its a split second burst less the a needle's thickness?  Plus I have to assume the look down imaging systems on it make Google Earth look pants.  Park her in orbit over your suspects house, wait for Terrorist Tommy to leave his pad and just shoot a trickle charge.  It'll look like he just spontaneously combusted

[Aardwolf]

That's what AAA's are for.

[Colonol Dekker]

The shivans had super lasers, i would hope that a Terran Beam would have a similar effect to the ION Cannon from CNC. Otherwise why would the EA need to build the Icanus? They could just use a normal beam to crack the mantle according to speculations here?

[StarSlayer]

The shivans had super lasers, i would hope that a Terran Beam would have a similar effect to the ION Cannon from CNC. Otherwise why would the EA need to build the Icanus? They could just use a normal beam to crack the mantle according to speculations here?

My comment was meant in jest, I haven't the foggiest what the firepower output of the BFGreen is.  I was just making a crack at the assumption it was only capable of massive collateral damage

[Nuclear1]

Otherwise why would the EA need to build the Icanus?

Because the Inferno team was more concerned with ship porn than a coherent explanation?

[Colonol Dekker]

I have no problem with that philosophy.
 
As long as it's done well.
 

[Mongoose]

Oh sure, go back on-topic after I move it.

[Nuclear1]

That was the plan the whole time

I have no problem with that philosophy.
 
As long as it's done well.

Except that it wasn't.  INF ships ended up being turned into glass cannons, warships with big beams and 15 HP.  They never lasted more than a single volley from another warship, so the cool ships would always get blasted before they could be cool.

NOTE:  Not meaning to INF bash, just being critical of the way the new ships were implemented.

[NGTM-1R]

Somebody has not played the mission involving the Nemesis enough.

[Nuclear1]

Oh I have, and I'll admit that definitely is an exception, but it shouldn't be an exception--it should've been the norm.