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Re: Falklands 2: my oil not yours
He HAS to be trolling.
Also, if British rule was that unpopular everywhere the Commonwealth wouldn't be what it is today.
Don't get me wrong, I don't imagine it was all roses, but the Brits helped shape / improve quite a lot of countries while plundering all their valuables/workable age men. >.>
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Re: Falklands 2: my oil not yours
He HAS to be trolling.
Also, if British rule was that unpopular everywhere the Commonwealth wouldn't be what it is today.
Don't get me wrong, I don't imagine it was all roses, but the Brits helped shape / improve quite a lot of countries while plundering all their valuables/workable age men. >.>

Not trolling, just responding to comments all in one go instead of multiple responses. catching up one missed posts. And the commonwealth is not exactly that united today, losts of disharmony in places like Australia and New Zealand. Not to mention suspended members like zimbabwe.

Dont see how Britain can lay a claim to an island so far away from its shores and only just East from Argentina.

Try actually reading the history of the islands before commenting then.


Im very up to-date on my history actually. And I do believe that Britain justs want to keep its claim to the island because of the possibility of oil. It suited Maggie Thatcher to fight for them in the war to help her popularity and take the focus off problems in her home country.

And the fact that almost the entire population of the islands consider themselves British escaped your notice?

its just another plantation. The time that has past does not matter.



and can someone please tell me why does internet explorer keep jumping the box i am typing in  everything i am trying to reply to a comment, have to use firefox (which i dont mind) but tis very annoying!!
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Re: Falklands 2: my oil not yours
I believe the only thing that's going on in this south american bloc is some whining and whinging. The international status quo as well as the inhabitants agree that goose green, sort stanley and everything else in the falklands territory is ours. You guys have every right to flounce and sulk by denying safe harbour to craft en route. But it's very childish. . . . Like snatching a toy. Why wait til you see us moving in for oil before forming a pronounced opinion that the isles are yours this time around? 
 
 
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Re: Falklands 2: my oil not yours
Wait, you do acknowledge we have the right to do what we did so far? Then why are you so eager to come here and shoot us?
You know, now I feel offended. A prepotent idiot isn't even worth the typing. But now I see you're actually not an idiot, you're willfully promoting hate and launching threats everywhere even when you are totally aware no rights have been violated. And worse, you're doing it while you're a moderator. This I consider to be serious.

 

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Re: Falklands 2: my oil not yours
Please highlight the threat.
 
I appear to have missed myself presenting one.
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Re: Falklands 2: my oil not yours
Please highlight the threat.
 
I appear to have missed myself presenting one.

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I'm hoping it is resolved quickly and decisively.

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I'd like to see them try.

 

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Re: Falklands 2: my oil not yours
That's not a threat. The very wording of it proves it isn't.
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Re: Falklands 2: my oil not yours
yada yada yada let the ICJ settle the dispute, that's what it's for.
I am very amused to see how easily politicians can divert their nation's attention from really important things, like internal economy and international debt.

 

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Re: Falklands 2: my oil not yours
I'm not forgetting, it's just a welcome conversational topic.
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Re: Falklands 2: my oil not yours
yada yada yada let the ICJ settle the dispute, that's what it's for.
I am very amused to see how easily politicians can divert their nation's attention from really important things, like internal economy and international debt.

seconded.


Nothing like an international drama to focus attention away from home problems
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Re: Falklands 2: my oil not yours
I'm not forgetting, it's just a welcome conversational topic.
Is that an answer to my post? If so, please rephrase it, since I find it ambiguous (yes, not a native speaker, sincerely sorry about it).

 

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Re: Falklands 2: my oil not yours
I meant i'm not forgetting how screwed up my countrys economy is :)
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-Uncharted Territory
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Re: Falklands 2: my oil not yours
I meant i'm not forgetting how screwed up my countrys economy is :)
Your country's economy?

Here, take a look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_economy#Criticism

Now, I know I'm being a bit pessimistic, but considering past experiences...

EDIT: Actually, I haven't read the entire article, but just looking through it, it may be just what you need to feel better...
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Re: Falklands 2: my oil not yours
I pointed this out earlier. The 1982 war is pretty much agreed upon as being the junta's way of distracting attention away from the situation back home. They expected that following the invasion they'd be able to force the UK into talks and thereby give themselves a huge patriotic victory at very little cost.
 Unfortunately they completely miscalculated what the British response would be and didn't expect a declaration of war followed by a British task fleet to almost immediately start sailing south. Ironically their attempt to hold onto power actually made their fall from it much more likely.

So now Argentina is in a economic crisis and what happens? Well it's not a military response this time but I really suspect that the real reason behind this being brought up again isn't actually that different.
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Re: Falklands 2: my oil not yours
I pointed this out earlier. The 1982 war is pretty much agreed upon as being the junta's way of distracting attention away from the situation back home. They expected that following the invasion they'd be able to force the UK into talks and thereby give themselves a huge patriotic victory at very little cost.
 Unfortunately they completely miscalculated what the British response would be and didn't expect a declaration of war followed by a British task fleet to almost immediately start sailing south. Ironically their attempt to hold onto power actually made their fall from it much more likely.

So now Argentina is in a economic crisis and what happens? Well it's not a military response this time but I really suspect that the real reason behind this being brought up again isn't actually that different.
Well, calling it a crisis is going too far. The main problem with our economy is inflation. The rest is doing fine (it could do better, but it's fine). Inflation is still under control, but we have bad memories about it. That's why I said I'm being a bit pessimistic.

The main objection about the Kirchners is political. People dislike their methods. Peronist behaviour, adapted of course to the 21st century.
They are, however, political geniuses. They are not going to begin a war, especially when everyone opposes to one and know it's lost before the first shot. But a small diplomatic conflict can distract the population and prove beneficial to regain the votes of those old school hypernationalists. If, along the way, they reaffirm the claims, well, that won't hurt them either.

Your politicians surely know this. The fact they are giving this such undeserved importance is indicative they don't mind to use this political smokescreen too.

  

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Re: Falklands 2: my oil not yours
I wouldn't deny that at all.

And I wouldn't deny that at some point Thatcher realised that a strong response to the Falklands would look good for her in 1982. In fact it's widely credited with winning her the next election. I doubt it was the only reason (For all I dislike Thatcher she was a woman of convictions and would probably have gone to war even if she'd known it would lose the election for her).

The point is that both countries should see through the smokescreen.
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