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N00b beging for Blender Texturing help
So I've got blender, and started making a model. I loved it and the model turned up pretty well. But I don't have the smallest clue as to how to texture/UV map it. I mean, all the tutorials on the net say that they are for the older versions of Blender and that some of the steps don't apply.
So someone, please, HELP!

 

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Re: N00b beging for Blender Texturing help
what version of blender are you on?
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2.49b?

 

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If you have 2.49b, you're running the penultimate Blender version (the same as me, actually). There's the 2.5 that, last time I checked, is still beta. But if you have 2.49, I might help, a bit...

Blender UV mapping works with 'seams'. What that amounts to, basically, is that you 'cut' along certain edges of the model, to allow the model to be 'unfolded'. Imagine having a paper model of the ship, that you need to somehow unfold to a flat surface. You take a pair of scissors and cut along certain corners/edges.

To do that, you need to apply a UV map to the model. Select your mesh and press F9. that should take you to the 'Editing' menu. If you haven't messed with the interface, the second tab down below should have a button that reads 'UV Texture - new'. Clicky.

Split your main screen into two sub-screens. Convert one of them to a 'UV map' screen, with the drop-up list on the extreme left. You'll get a 2D grid.

Get your cursor in the 3d display screen -where your model is. TAB to go into edit mode. 'u' to get the Unwrapping drop-down. Click 'Unwrap'. Note that only faces that are selected in the 3D view will be unwrapped.

If you haven't defined any seams, you'll get a mess in the 2D 'UV map' screen. That's because you haven't told Blender where to 'cut' the model, and so the poor program tries to turn your mesh into a 2D plane by squishing and scrunching it into a ball of vertices. Not good.

Now it's the time to THINK. This part is the one that takes time. Ages, if your model is complicated.

Think about how your model is built. Think where you should 'cut' so that it unfolds better. Think about your textures. Where textures change, you'll probably (not necessarily, if you know what you're doing, though) want seams.

When you've decided which edges are goin to be seams, select some of them. Ctrl+E on the 3D view to get the Edge drop-down list. 'Mark as Seam'.

If you did it properly, those edges will become bright orange when you're in Edit mode. That means they're gonna get 'cut' when Blender unwraps the model.

Try this: Select the edges that surround a panel of the ship. Mark them as seams. Then, Unwrap.

See how the panel is now a separate 'island' in the 2D view? Ideally, your model should become a number of such 'islands' with as little distortion as possible.

But, seriously. Most UV mapping tutorials on the net (possibly not the Blender site, since they're promoting their new 2.5 toy) are 2.49 tutorials. You'll get better examples, images and strategies for quicker and better unwrapping.

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solved! Thanks a lot enioch!

 

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Re: N00b beging for Blender Texturing help
Also for most FS stuff, set the unwrapper to conformal (area based) rather than the default angle based. The angle one is better for organic type meshes.

 

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Re: N00b beging for Blender Texturing help
Also for most FS stuff, set the unwrapper to conformal (area based) rather than the default angle based. The angle one is better for organic type meshes.

wat?

Does it really make a difference... I mean, I'm UV'ing a model right now (only UV'ing so far), almost half way through... should I start UV'ing it again with that in mind?

It does give a slightly better result when unwraping...

I guess I should start all over again.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2010, 05:42:08 pm by Rodo »
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Re: N00b beging for Blender Texturing help
Also for most FS stuff, set the unwrapper to conformal (area based) rather than the default angle based. The angle one is better for organic type meshes.

How do I do this?
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Re: N00b beging for Blender Texturing help
In edit mode. F9 > UV Calculation tab.

 

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ah right on.
<Nuclear>   truth: the good samaritan actually checked for proof of citizenship and health insurance
<Axem>   did anyone catch jesus' birth certificate?
<Nuclear>   and jesus didnt actually give the 5000 their fish...he gave it to the romans and let it trickle down
<Axem>and he was totally pro tax breaks
<Axem>he threw out all those tax collectors at the temple
<Nuclear>   he drove a V8 camel too
<Nuclear>   with a sword rack for his fully-automatic daggers

Esarai: hey gaiz, what's a good improvised, final attack for a ship fighting to buy others time to escape to use?
RangerKarl|AtWork: stick your penis in the warp core
DarthGeek: no don't do that
amki: don't EVER do that

 
Re: N00b beging for Blender Texturing help
Is there anyway to simplify geometry so that stuff on the inside of the model is removed, as in no surfaces inside the model?
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Re: N00b beging for Blender Texturing help
Is there anyway to simplify geometry so that stuff on the inside of the model is removed, as in no surfaces inside the model?

are you on about shortcut z to show this
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Re: N00b beging for Blender Texturing help
... wut?

I mean actually REMOVE and simplify, not just make the surfaces opaque
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Re: N00b beging for Blender Texturing help
I tend to make the model transparent as shown then move the view around to see what's inside that I don't want and select - delete as needed, it can be tricky to see what's happening in busy meshes but that's the only way I know.  select - non-manifold while in edit view can help once you start deleting stuff to look for holes and stuff you missed deleting.

for general reducing the number of excess vertices/polys in edit mode I use scripts - poly reducer, though this can cause weird results in your mesh if used more than a couple of times
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Re: N00b beging for Blender Texturing help
Go to edit mode, then use vertex or edges selection.

Press A to unselect all.

search for the option "Non mainfold" it will highlight all edges/vertex that share two or more faces, normally.... open parts of the model, unconected vertex and double sided faces.
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