[Flipside]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9q2jNjOPdk

[sayoqod]

Mika makes a mental note that they should add in the University curriculum a course called "Sarcasm 101", a course that is not about writing sarcasm, but a course about reading and noticing sarcasm. Also included should be "Discussion 101", a course about detecting sarcasm in real time, real life talks! The rest of the people need not apply, as this problem seems to stem mainly from the Universities.

Sarcasm is an extensive subject. Perhaps there should be a 200-level class, as well. "Special Topics in Sarcasm", "Sarcasm and Society", "Sarcasm in Modern Works"....of course, this is speaking from the perspective of someone whose college offers both Beginning and Advanced Clogging.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9q2jNjOPdk

Amazing. Thank you for that.

[newman]

Hey, it's the internet. I've seen far too many things that I initially thought were sarcasm and then saw that yes, it was really *that* stupid. And I've actually dealt with people from this forum who grovel about as much, so.. incredible? Yes. Impossible? No. With that sort of experience and absolutely no way of knowing who or what the person hiding behind a nick I never saw before is, it's sort of easy to miss..

[Polpolion]

You don't have to mention what you're apologizing for. Not mentioning it makes the letter more personal, because it builds on the shared knowledge of the two of you - the others needn't know it.

This is an extremely bad plan, for the record. It is typically viewed as an effort to not actually admit fault in my experience.

Looks like you haven't bothered to even read the letter. It's all about admitting fault. You're disagreeing with me for the sake of disagreeing with me.

I knew right away when I saw you posted in this thread that you'll post something like that. You're too predictable.

But it's not about admitting the fault. It's abject groveling, and there's a huge difference. Namely the latter allows you to "apologize" without admitting exactly what you've really done wrong.

[Mika]

Sarcasm is an extensive subject. Perhaps there should be a 200-level class, as well. "Special Topics in Sarcasm", "Sarcasm and Society", "Sarcasm in Modern Works"....of course, this is speaking from the perspective of someone whose college offers both Beginning and Advanced Clogging.

 

I would say there is an absolute need for better education about this subject as the detection of sarcasm is generally an easily learned skill and doesn't require any sort of gifts in perception. There is so much well written sarcasm in the Modern Works that it is almost overwhelming, not to mention the absolutely chilling usage of Irony and Satire. As a personal observation, there seems to be a trend that the sarcasm detection capabilities decrease as the people get older, so I suggest something like "Sarcasm for Seniors" too. At least I would participate if such course happened, as I cannot write sarcasm, at least in a way that it could be actually funny.

Recalling the earlier response I had, if the above text seems somehow irritating, or even insulting, it definitely wasn't my meaning and I sincerely apologize for it.

[sayoqod]

I'm not at all insulted, I quite agree. Many people don't even know that subtle sarcasm exists, just because they don't recognize it

[Mika]

I'm not at all insulted, I quite agree. Many people don't even know that subtle sarcasm exists, just because they don't recognize it

   

This is getting to pretty high level stuff, isn't it?

[sayoqod]

I'm not at all insulted, I quite agree. Many people don't even know that subtle sarcasm exists, just because they don't recognize it

   

This is getting to pretty high level stuff, isn't it?

Maybe. In any case, I think this thread has served its purpose.