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Offline Herra Tohtori

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Re: Hypercam 2, Bandicam no sound
timidity++


Also, a brief explanation on what MIDI is, how it works, and why your request of something that "doesn't change anything of the sound" is invalid.

Like someone already said, MIDI is like music notes. It's a synthesizer file that contains notation for computer, instructions on what notes to play and with what samples.


Much like standard musical notation requires a musician to play the piece, MIDI requires rendering device to parse the file into waveform that is then sent to either computer's audio hardware, or just save it into a file that you can then play on more standard music players.


The reason why your request of something that doesn't change the sound of the MIDI is invalid is because there is no sound in the MIDI. It needs rendering equipment to become sound, and much like every musician's performance of same piece of music will sound different, every different rendering equipment will produce slightly different sound from same MIDI file. There is no "standard" MIDI environment, just ones that sound better and ones that sound worse.

Aside from renderer settings (surround, reverb, chorus etc.), the biggest thing that changes how the rendered midi file sounds like would be the soundfont.


Soundfonts are big files that contain audio samples of instruments. These instrument samples are used by the MIDI rendering device, based on instrument numbers. There is a huge lot of MIDI instruments and even more different sound fonts; the sound font provided with Microsoft Windows operating systems is, quite frankly, very small and crappy.


So, the most likely answer to your question is that you should use timidity++, in file output mode, and locate/download some good soundfonts and test which makes the MIDI file sound the best it can, instead of expecting some nonexistent "standard" of how the midi file should sound like.
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Offline Flipside

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Re: Hypercam 2, Bandicam no sound
This is one advantage of my E-MU1212 card that I use for my audio work, full ASIO and VST support, an excellent midi soundbank, it's even got hardware equalizers and fx that help reduce lag to a minimum, and support for Creative Soundfonts ;)

The only downside is that my onboard sound runs through some multimedia speakers and my EMU runs through a seperate amplifier, which can be annoying when you are recording at 2am and you forget to turn down the volume on the one that doesn't have the headphones plugged into it.

Fact is 'General Midi' soundbanks are pretty much obsolete now anyway, they still get used for downloadable stuff because there is a kind of standard (Voice 1 is Piano, Voice 56 is Orchestral Hit etc) but it's important not to confuse the General Midi sounds with MIDI data, which can be played using any synthesis software and isn't limited to those 127 voices.

The downside is that it's 150 quids worth of equipment, for people just starting out with Audio work, I'd recommend an Audiophile card instead, it's more than half as good for less than half the price :D
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Offline Enigmatic Entity

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Re: Hypercam 2, Bandicam no sound
Perhaps you could try hacking the CD Audio cable to recieve the output from the speaker out? I guess that requires things that cost money too....
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Offline Marcov

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Re: Hypercam 2, Bandicam no sound
If you just want the default stuff you can give it a shot in winamp (at least, in older versions you could do this):
http://users.lmi.net/bblackie/music/winamp/midi2wav.html

But it doesn't convert the whole thing...sort of varies on how long it is; in one instance, it's merely 5 seconds, and then sometimes 8 seconds, then if I'm lucky it gets to 35 seconds.

Why is that?
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Offline Herra Tohtori

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Re: Hypercam 2, Bandicam no sound
Winamp is a horrible program.

Get Timidity++, a soundfont of your choice (Fluid R3 GM usually works well), and set it to output to file (RIFF WAV would probably be the best choice).
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Offline Nuke

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Re: Hypercam 2, Bandicam no sound
Winamp is a horrible program.

Get Timidity++, a soundfont of your choice (Fluid R3 GM usually works well), and set it to output to file (RIFF WAV would probably be the best choice).

lies!

its only horrible for people who dont have the sense to not install every module that comes with it by default. default install is abit bloated, get red of the bloat and whats left is a robust and stable media player. though its probably not the thing to use for midi. would be the same as using a hammer when you need a screw driver.
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Offline Halleck

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Re: Hypercam 2, Bandicam no sound
Yeah sorry that was probably a bad suggestion. I was just googling for a free windows program with midi conversion capabilities.
Go with Timidity++. I have used it on linux before and it is pretty nice. I couldn't remember the name of it before and I didn't know it was crossplatform.