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New Guy! Need some help please.
So today I was browsing the web and decided to check on BTRL, to my surprise it is no longer available, it is dead.  So I did some more research looking for more information and I remembered this site.

So I will just cut to the chase, I have purchased FreeSpace 2 from GOG and I will install it tonight, I have also downloaded FreeSpace Open Installer 3.6.12 to install as well, I did some reading so I also downloaded OpenAL Installer.  Now for the question, I know you have been waiting for it.  When I unzipped the FreeSpace Open Installer it had 4 exe files and 2 .pdb files.  Which one do I choose

1) Fred2_open_3_6_12d_inf.exe
2) Fred2_open_3_6_12r_inf.exe
3) fs2_open_3_6_12d_inf.exe
 or
4) fs2_open_3_6_12r_inf.exe

I am a little confused but I am totally amped about installing all of this and seeing FreeSpace 2 with the new graphics.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Sorry If I did not read enough to find out what to do, I know nothing of modding, I just enjoy a good game.

Thanks
Mike

 

Offline Deadly in a Shadow

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Re: New Guy! Need some help please.
So today I was browsing the web and decided to check on BTRL, to my surprise it is no longer available, it is dead.  So I did some more research looking for more information and I remembered this site.

So I will just cut to the chase, I have purchased FreeSpace 2 from GOG and I will install it tonight, I have also downloaded FreeSpace Open Installer 3.6.12 to install as well, I did some reading so I also downloaded OpenAL Installer.  Now for the question, I know you have been waiting for it.  When I unzipped the FreeSpace Open Installer it had 4 exe files and 2 .pdb files.  Which one do I choose

1) Fred2_open_3_6_12d_inf.exe
2) Fred2_open_3_6_12r_inf.exe
3) fs2_open_3_6_12d_inf.exe
 or
4) fs2_open_3_6_12r_inf.exe

I am a little confused but I am totally amped about installing all of this and seeing FreeSpace 2 with the new graphics.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Sorry If I did not read enough to find out what to do, I know nothing of modding, I just enjoy a good game.

Thanks
Mike
Use the fourth one. The FRED executables are "mission editors". The "r" means release and "d" means debug.
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Offline Snail

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Re: New Guy! Need some help please.
The executable for playing is fs2_open_3_6_12r_inf.exe

The ones starting in "fred" are the mission editor executables, the ones with "3_6_12d" are debug builds which output a comedy of errors if you need help fixing bugs.

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: New Guy! Need some help please.
Yep, use the last one until someone asks you to generate a debug log - in that case the second to last one will help you out.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: New Guy! Need some help please.
Yes, use the last one.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

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Offline FelixJim

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Re: New Guy! Need some help please.
Yep, use the last one until someone asks you to generate a debug log - in that case the second to last one will help you out.
You do mean UNLESS...right?
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: New Guy! Need some help please.
Yep, use the last one until someone asks you to generate a debug log - in that case the second to last one will help you out.
You do mean UNLESS...right?

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Offline Mongoose

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Re: New Guy! Need some help please.
I wonder if it would be beneficial for the SCP to adopt a slightly more user-friendly naming convention for builds, at least in the case of official releases.  It'd be much easier to tell the user to use the executable with "Release" or "Debug" in the file name instead of having them hunt through the underscores for a single letter.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: New Guy! Need some help please.
I wonder if it would be beneficial for the SCP to adopt a slightly more user-friendly naming convention for builds, at least in the case of official releases.  It'd be much easier to tell the user to use the executable with "Release" or "Debug" in the file name instead of having them hunt through the underscores for a single letter.
There has been talk of exactly this. Basically the build a regular user is supposed to use would simply be "fs2_open_3_6_14.exe" or equivalent, and any other variants would be clearly separated, such as "fs2_open_3_6_14_DEBUG.exe" etc.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

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Offline General Battuta

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Re: New Guy! Need some help please.
I wonder if it would be beneficial for the SCP to adopt a slightly more user-friendly naming convention for builds, at least in the case of official releases.  It'd be much easier to tell the user to use the executable with "Release" or "Debug" in the file name instead of having them hunt through the underscores for a single letter.

Yeah I whined about this and the good folk are doing stuff

 

Offline jg18

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Re: New Guy! Need some help please.
Might I add that it would also be nice if the naming conventions were consistent across all three platforms. The OS X builds use different names from the others.

 
Re: New Guy! Need some help please.
Yes, use the last one.

I want to thank everyone for the help and support while I learn how FreeSpace OpenInstaller works.

I have another question to ask:  When I select the my mod location, anyone that I choose, and then I hit run it launches FreeSpace 2, depending on the mod it can vary on how it is displayed.  Do I have to do the training scenario for all mods I choose or am I doing something wrong?

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: New Guy! Need some help please.
You need to go into the campaign room and select the mod's new campaign.

 
Re: New Guy! Need some help please.
Make sure that when you want to play the vanilla FS2 campaign, you select the Media VPs folder as the mod, or you won't get the cool pretty effects.  Also alter the mod.ini files in the mod folders you're using to point to the mediavps_3612 folder, but note that not all mods will be 100% compatible yet.  You may, for some mods, need to download the 3.6.10 VPs and use them instead.  But it's pretty easy to figure out once you get the hang of it.
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Re: New Guy! Need some help please.
BtRL is still available to download from here. As for being dead, who knows? But Diaspora should give you everything you ever wanted from BtRL and more. :D
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Offline Drogoth

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Re: New Guy! Need some help please.
Lets use in game wing naming conventions to name the different files! Wooo!

That would make things simpler... right?
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