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Offline Klaustrophobia

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Re: All together now... KANE LIVES! (Stealth Tank concept)
of course they know how it works, but they aren't likely to come out and say "here are all the limitations" while trying to promote it as stealth technology.  THAT'S what we're speculating on.
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Re: All together now... KANE LIVES! (Stealth Tank concept)
That may be true. However, a different take is they'll say what the limitations are so people will have an idea as to when it'll be fully operational
Worth a shot anyhow.

Here's another thing, you could very well shut off everything inside the tank except for what is required to project on the panels. This further reduces heat (if heat is even a factor; it's a likely one, but how do we know? It could be cold as ice inside and outside that tank)
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Re: All together now... KANE LIVES! (Stealth Tank concept)
heat generation is only part of the problem though.  once it's hot, it's hot.  it would take quite a while to cool down to ambient temperatures. 
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Re: All together now... KANE LIVES! (Stealth Tank concept)
Depends on what sort of cooling system or just how well the material can disperse the heat
The other question also remains: Just how much heat is produced in the first place?


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Re: All together now... KANE LIVES! (Stealth Tank concept)
There are a couple directions you'll always be able to make the assumption that you don't need thermal masking in, though the vehicle would have to be able to determine what directions those are on the fly.  For example, depending on the theatre and operating parameters, you may not need thermal camouflage from the sky.
Actually, there are no such directions in tank combat. If you do that, then you're playing a lottery with your life at stake. What if an enemy tank gets behind you, where you not expect it?
Depends on what sort of cooling system or just how well the material can disperse the heat
The other question also remains: Just how much heat is produced in the first place?
Guns can get really, really hot. M1 Abrams engine runs hotter than a Molotov Cocktail can burn. The answer is, a lot.
If you look into hard sci-fi stories, radiating heat in space is a major problem, since space isn't a good heat conductor. Air is a much better one, but this technology restricts it's use. My concerns are about how the vehicle would be able to get rid of this heat without messing up it's stealth or changing it's interior into a sauna. Getting rid of heat is actually a major technical problem in a lot of machines, thermodynamics are not very forgiving in that matter. (just look how elaborate the cooling system in a high-performance computer can get, or in a modern car).

 

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Re: All together now... KANE LIVES! (Stealth Tank concept)
Actually, there are no such directions in tank combat. If you do that, then you're playing a lottery with your life at stake. What if an enemy tank gets behind you, where you not expect it?

While an A-10 is about as close as we can get to a flying tank, I'm fairly certain that actual tanks cannot fly.  There is also the matter of air superiority to consider.

As for enemy tanks flanking, I guess it depends on the purpose of the system.  If it's for recce, then the whole thing needs camouflage.  If it's purpose is to sit in ambush positions for denial of territory, then whole-vehicle masking probably wouldn't be necessary, allowing it to operate longer.

Again, there's a hell of a lot we don't know about how this system operates; any arguments we can make at this point are purely speculative.
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Re: All together now... KANE LIVES! (Stealth Tank concept)
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Guns can get really, really hot. M1 Abrams engine runs hotter than a Molotov Cocktail can burn. The answer is, a lot.

I was under the impression you've been talking solely about the stealth aspect, not combined with the firing aspect. On that note, yes there will be a lot of heat. Not only that, but it also defeats any purpose of having the stealth technology active since well, you've just given away your position by firing

Also note, that the tank in the video doesn't appear to have any sort of massive gun on it (at least, none that I could see). So, I don't believe whether or not it can disperse heat after firing a weapon is in the discussion at this moment.

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There is also the matter of air superiority to consider.

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