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Nuke · **Reply #40 on:** November 04, 2011, 10:23:29 am

gound, lol, i live on an island.

should kinda point out that i cant really afford to ship each item separately. so i cant really exploit deals from multiple companies. newegg charges per box it seems (of which there will be at least 2), and i kinda have some concerns that i allocated too little for shipping.

Quote from: LHN91 on November 03, 2011, 11:53:04 pm

I've somewhat lost any faith I had in Seagate hard drives. Last one I bought had to be sent in for an RMA 2 weeks in. Now admittedly, since it came back from RMA it's been totally fine, but still. Ended up grabbing a 500gb Caviar Black, and several months later a 1tb Green (EDIT: as a media drive in another box), and been quite happy with them.

my opinions on hard drives arent all that bad. i currently run a hitachi, a seagate, and a western digital (2 actually, if you include my ancient 20 gig that sits in a spare starcraft box), were talking a decade worth of drive purchases, and they all still run fine. ive seen a number of laptop hard drives fail, but these were not mine originally so i dont know how much abuse they took, all mine ultimately ended up getting used to repair other laptops.

*edit*
newegg gives me $75 as its shipping estimate so i may be able to swing an upgrade or two.
*looks at gtx 560s*

its possible, but i need to cut something to stay under budget (im $20 over). maybe dropping the expensive fans and going with cheaper ones or a lower capacity hard drive. gonna check psu calc and make sure i dont need any additional power.

*edit* power looks good.

LHN91 · **Reply #41 on:** November 04, 2011, 11:18:45 am

I'm not saying all Seagates are bad, I've got several old 40 and 80 gb Seagates running just fine, a bunch of old Maxtors, a couple of Hitachi laptop drives in externals running fine, and I've seen at least one 160gb WD die far before it should have; but in terms of the current generation of drives, I've had the best luck with the Caviars; and heard one too many reports from local shops to the effect that for every Caviar they get back with problems/for RMA they get 10-20 Seagates.

And forgot to mention, the G-Skill RAM is good stuff. I'm running 4gb of their DDR2 1066 and it's been flawless. I know at least one other person who used the Ripjaws series around the same time I built mine and they've been quite happy with it, running with a first gen i5 and IIRC a 2x5770 Crossfire setup.

Nuke · **Reply #42 on:** November 04, 2011, 11:29:45 am

ram is getting hella cheap, so i sort by rating and get the first 1600 with 8-8-8-24 timings that was on the list. it had a good rating and a good price. the mobo description says it can take 1600 without overclocking, so hopefully i can haz some serious memory bandwidth here.

KyadCK · **Reply #43 on:** November 04, 2011, 11:59:43 am

My 1600 9-9-9-24 in Dual Channel:

Your better timings and Intel mem controller should be a bit better then that. However, being 8-8-8 and 1600 you may have to put in the settings manually in BIOS if the board doesn't recognize XMP. This is the case with all ram above 1333 and/or lower timings then 9-9-9 sadly.

LHN91 · **Reply #44 on:** November 04, 2011, 12:07:53 pm

Similar thing with my DDR2. DDR2 technically only supports 800mhz. The G-Skill was essentially certified to overclock to 1066. Had to manually input the values denoted on the RAM into the BIOS.

Klaustrophobia · **Reply #45 on:** November 04, 2011, 01:03:02 pm

newegg charges shipping per order. my entire purchase shipped for about $16. after the order was submitted and paid, they broke it up into two and shipped separately, and didn't charge me any extra.

Nuke · **Reply #46 on:** November 04, 2011, 04:14:07 pm

Quote from: LHN91 on November 04, 2011, 12:07:53 pm

Similar thing with my DDR2. DDR2 technically only supports 800mhz. The G-Skill was essentially certified to overclock to 1066. Had to manually input the values denoted on the RAM into the BIOS.

ive experienced the glory of memory timings before. im supposed to be running 1066 (ddr2) on this rig, but i think its only doing 800. i did manage to get low latency timing, but not the advertised clock rate. when i got it, it worked as advertised, but because my mobo got damaged last time i moved, and could only get a mediocre mobo as a replacement, i am stuck with a lower memory clock.

Quote from: Klaustrophobia on November 04, 2011, 01:03:02 pm

newegg charges shipping per order. my entire purchase shipped for about $16. after the order was submitted and paid, they broke it up into two and shipped separately, and didn't charge me any extra.

they do that but its usually the per box charge * number of boxes. when i order one part, like the screen i ordered a couple years back, they charged me $25. since they estimate $75 i assume they plan to ship it out in 3 boxes. and it will be shipped fedex. to add insult to injury, being rural, fedex does not recognize my street address, and so delivers to the post office instead (i have a po box). and since our town has no postal delivery service, i have to go pick them up. so $75 on shipping and they dont even deliver it to my house.

LHN91 · **Reply #47 on:** November 04, 2011, 06:05:23 pm

I'm running a cheap 50 dollar ASUS with an old nForce chipset and I got it to do 1066, so I can't see why you wouldn't be able to get the 1066 set up unless you got a really awful board.

Also, that really sucks, the shipping ordeal. Very happy I live in Southern Ontario right about now.

Nuke · **Reply #48 on:** November 05, 2011, 12:05:29 am

i just figured id take the stable low latency timings and stop screwing with it. i tweaked settings for 3 hours and couldnt get it to work. there was no new bios version to flash it with, sometimes that helps. it helped with both of my dead asus boards.

LHN91 · **Reply #49 on:** November 05, 2011, 12:34:43 pm

...And I had already updated that ASUS to the newest BIOS before installing it, so that's probably why it worked fine XD.

Nuke · **Reply #50 on:** November 05, 2011, 12:51:57 pm

im currently using a dfi lan party dkp45-t2rs plus. i got it a couple years ago so theres probibly a bios revision now. i might update it once i get my other rig up and running. this is my only high performance rig right now and i really dont want to do anything high risk with till i got my new rig built. im rather concerned its gonna keil over and die if i do anything to it.

achtung · **Reply #51 on:** November 05, 2011, 05:10:31 pm

Have you picked a cooler yet? If not, Ive had a great experience with the hyper 212+. Since you dont intend to OC, stock would probably be fine though.

KyadCK · **Reply #52 on:** November 05, 2011, 05:49:38 pm

Quote from: Swantz on November 05, 2011, 05:10:31 pm

Have you picked a cooler yet? If not, Ive had a great experience with the hyper 212+. Since you dont intend to OC, stock would probably be fine though.

It's a mini-tower, where is he going to find room for a 212+?

Klaustrophobia · **Reply #53 on:** November 05, 2011, 05:55:21 pm

i wish i'd gone ahead and gotten one of those now. i passed because i don't plan to overclock immediately, and wasn't sure it would fit until i laid eyes on the case. i didn't realize just how horrifically **** the stock intel cooler is. i thought it was just the same crap as with amd, a bunch of people flaming the stock cooler for the hell of it when it really isn't all that bad. i haven't actually fired it up yet and seen what the temps are, but it's just SUCH a flimsy POS. the pre-applied thermal paste was awful, it's WAY smaller than i thought, and let's not even talk about the retention pins.

KyadCK · **Reply #54 on:** November 05, 2011, 07:35:04 pm

Quote from: Klaustrophobia on November 05, 2011, 05:55:21 pm

i wish i'd gone ahead and gotten one of those now. i passed because i don't plan to overclock immediately, and wasn't sure it would fit until i laid eyes on the case. i didn't realize just how horrifically **** the stock intel cooler is. i thought it was just the same crap as with amd, a bunch of people flaming the stock cooler for the hell of it when it really isn't all that bad. i haven't actually fired it up yet and seen what the temps are, but it's just SUCH a flimsy POS. the pre-applied thermal paste was awful, it's WAY smaller than i thought, and let's not even talk about the retention pins.

The problem is there are almost no good low form factor air coolers, and at least on newegg, no cheap water coolers. (lowest is about $65) The good news is that the 2500 is supposed to be cold-ish (being able to reach 4.5 on air easily) and no plans to overclock.

Nuke · **Reply #55 on:** November 05, 2011, 07:41:06 pm

Quote from: Swantz on November 05, 2011, 05:10:31 pm

Have you picked a cooler yet? If not, Ive had a great experience with the hyper 212+. Since you dont intend to OC, stock would probably be fine though.

im just gonna use the stock cooler for now. i wanted to get something better, but cost constraints. i still got some arctic silver from my last build, so that should provide a better interface than what comes with the stock cooler.

achtung · **Reply #56 on:** November 06, 2011, 01:50:46 am

Quote from: KyadCK on November 05, 2011, 05:49:38 pm

Quote from: Swantz on November 05, 2011, 05:10:31 pm
Have you picked a cooler yet? If not, Ive had a great experience with the hyper 212+. Since you dont intend to OC, stock would probably be fine though.

It's a mini-tower, where is he going to find room for a 212+?

Just assumed he was going with a full tower, or a mid tower, my bad.

If you change your mind, and want a cheap ($56.99) mid-tower, I must suggest this. It's what I've got, and it's been excellent thus far, and save for the front panel, it's very sturdy. The front panel does feel flimsy though, yet it's held itself together quite well while being moved several times. Air flow is good too.

Nuke · **Reply #57 on:** November 06, 2011, 01:53:19 am

i kinda think a mini tower is bigger than i want, but it can fit a full size graphics card. i was actually looking at a mini itx case, but it doesnt seem like you could cram any performance parts into such a case. it doesnt matter how much airflow you have, in a large case, its just air flowing through empty space.

LHN91 · **Reply #58 on:** November 06, 2011, 06:24:45 pm

The Arctic Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 fits just about perfectly in my mini tower.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134

Good cooler if you can fit it into the budget somewhere.

Nuke · **Reply #59 on:** November 25, 2011, 12:26:39 pm

i can haz money!!!

looks like i can order stuff now. i can also capitalize on black friday sales. and knock a few bucks off and throw on a copy of rage to boot.

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