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Offline jr2

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Re: Anti-virus softwares - which one and what are its pros/contras?
To repair all Windows system files, at an elevated command prompt, put in
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sfc /scannow
That's probably not the only issue however, the infection may have cleared out the registry entries that load the services.  If System Restore isn't available, you may be stuck doing a re-install (the other option is a repair install but those are usually messy enough afterwards to warrant a re-install).

I wish there were a true repair install for Windows that did not involve re-setting many of the connections that programs have made in the registry.

EDIT: If you know exactly which services are missing, you can copy the registry entries from another Windows install  if it's the same version (I mean Vista or 7 or XP, the variations between each of those (Vista and 7 Basic/HomePremium/Ultimate/etc and to a lesser extent, XP Home/Pro) usually don't matter.

 

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Re: Anti-virus softwares - which one and what are its pros/contras?
the sfc is one of the things i tried that found no errors.  i couldn't figure out how to do a repair install from the disk.  the closest thing i saw was the "let windows fix it automatically" which seemed to be the same thing as the sfc check.  i'm gonna ask for help on majorgeeks or something before i resort to a reinstall.  i just built this computer, i really don't want to start all over getting it set how i like again.
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Re: Anti-virus softwares - which one and what are its pros/contras?
For a repair install... IIRC you can modify a file in the windows install disk image, that will allow Windows Setup to do repair installs.  (M$ handily disabled it).

You could try asking at the MyDigitalLife forums about this; I'm pretty sure they would be able to tell you how to do it.

 
Re: Anti-virus softwares - which one and what are its pros/contras?
Just do not use the one that woutersmittsn uses

NOD32 actually does get a plus point for me: A lot of people where reporting  a virus that somehow had infected the homepage of one of my favorite websites at the time (concerning LEGO). NOD32 was rather usefull as it reported in full where the virus actually came from (the staff had trouble finding the bugger), and thus a small crisis was resolved.

However, NOD32 is quite paranoid - its just that Wouter blindly trusts it as if it is the TSA or something.

 

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score one for combofix.  i've got my services back now.  looks sketchy as hell, but it works.
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Re: Anti-virus softwares - which one and what are its pros/contras?
Just do not use the one that woutersmittsn uses

NOD32 actually does get a plus point for me: A lot of people where reporting  a virus that somehow had infected the homepage of one of my favorite websites at the time (concerning LEGO). NOD32 was rather usefull as it reported in full where the virus actually came from (the staff had trouble finding the bugger), and thus a small crisis was resolved.

However, NOD32 is quite paranoid - its just that Wouter blindly trusts it as if it is the TSA or something.

Wait, one actually trusts the TSA?
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Re: Anti-virus softwares - which one and what are its pros/contras?
FYI, MS released v4 of MSE just yesterday.

 

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Re: Anti-virus softwares - which one and what are its pros/contras?
i thought something looked a little different when i reinstalled it today.
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Re: Anti-virus softwares - which one and what are its pros/contras?
Just do not use the one that woutersmittsn uses

NOD32 actually does get a plus point for me: A lot of people where reporting  a virus that somehow had infected the homepage of one of my favorite websites at the time (concerning LEGO). NOD32 was rather usefull as it reported in full where the virus actually came from (the staff had trouble finding the bugger), and thus a small crisis was resolved.

However, NOD32 is quite paranoid - its just that Wouter blindly trusts it as if it is the TSA or something.

Wait, one actually trusts the TSA?

Yes. Mainly people who do not fly and politicians. IE - people with not a lot of knowledge on the subject matter. Like Wouter. (Geen kwade bedoelingen gozer, maar als je ook maar één programma in de IT 100% vertrouwt dan heb je er nog niet veel van begrepen...)

 

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Re: Anti-virus softwares - which one and what are its pros/contras?
Klaustrophobia, do you still have access to "Previous versions" of your folders?  (Right-click - Properties - "Previous Versions" tab)

If so, how far back does your %windir%\system32\config folder go?  'cause that's where your registry files are kept.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Registry#Windows_NT-based_operating_systems

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Windows NT-based systems store the registry in a binary hive format which can be exported, loaded and unloaded by the Registry Editor in these operating systems. The following system Registry files are stored in %SystemRoot%\System32\Config\:
Sam – HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SAM
Security – HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SECURITY
Software – HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE
System – HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM
Default – HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT
Userdiff – Not associated with a hive. Used only when upgrading operating systems.[28]
The following file is stored in each user's profile folder:
%UserProfile%\Ntuser.dat – HKEY_USERS\<User SID> (linked to by HKEY_CURRENT_USER)
For Windows 2000, Server 2003 and Windows XP, the following additional user-specific file is used for file associations and COM information:
%UserProfile%\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows\Usrclass.dat (path is localized) – HKEY_USERS\<User SID>_Classes (HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes)
For Windows Vista and later, the path was changed to:
%UserProfile%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Usrclass.dat (path is not localized) alias %LocalAppData%\Microsoft\Windows\Usrclass.dat – HKEY_USERS\<User SID>_Classes (HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes)

EDIT: You can use any value enclosed in % signs as if it were the actual path. e.g. %windir%

If you want to know the value of one of those, in cmd, put
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echo %windir% (obviously replace windir with the variable that you want to see).  For a list of variables, just type set in cmd and hit enter.

 

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Re: Anti-virus softwares - which one and what are its pros/contras?
it's fixed.  all is well with my computer once more. 

well, except for seagate's external hard drive firmware sucking nuts, but i can't fix that.
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Re: Anti-virus softwares - which one and what are its pros/contras?
Yeah you can.  Inside, it should be a regular hard disk.  Get a new external enclosure from Newegg, and swap them out.  Unless it's the actual firmware on the regular hard disk which is in the external enclosure, and Seagate hasn't fixed it.  If they did fix it, but they don't have a util to update the firmware over USB connection, you could just take it out, update it, and put it back.

What exactly is the situation?

 

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files corrupt way too frequently for my liking when copying over, it doesn't work with windows 7 backup (i knew that going in, but it would be nice to have if i ever decide to use it), and it makes the BIOS hang at the splash screen when you restart the computer.  cold boots work fine.  seagate support's response (to MANY people who have similar problems) is basically, "tough ****, we aren't going to fix it."

i'm not going to pull it out and put it in something else.  if anything, i'll just return it and get a WD.  it would be cheaper than buying an external enclosure.  the really sucky thing is that the base of the goflex pops right off and exposes the SATA connections, but the enclosure is built so that normal sata cables won't fit.
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Re: Anti-virus softwares - which one and what are its pros/contras?
Out of curiosity, how have you determined the problem is the HDD? I've had quite a subtle file corruption issue in the past, which was caused by faulty memory module. Memtest86 didn't find any issues, only Win7's own diagnostic did but only if used the extensive test.

 

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not for sure.  i've considered that it might be the USB link, but it sure seems like it's the disk.  i'm nearly certain it's not the memory or something like that.  i've never had any amount of corruption without using the external.  files will corrupt being put onto the external, but so far i haven't seen any additional corruption going the other way.  this is why it would be really nice to have the SATA ports available without breaking the enclosure, so i could check if it is the USB interface or the disk.  it's worth noting that i was beginning to have corruption problems on my old external hard drive (also a seagate) which is part of what prompted the new one.  i thought it was going bad because seagate's diagnostic tools failed or just plain didn't work on it, but after looking into it, it apparantly never worked right on USB connected disks.  even though their support tells you to use it.
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Re: Anti-virus softwares - which one and what are its pros/contras?
Hmm, you have GoFlex?  Well, you could test putting another sata hard disk on the goflex end and see if it still corrupts.  If it does, it's the goflex or computer.  If not, it's the hard disk part of the goflex.  Unless it's some weird thing between the goflex and it's own hard disk attachment.

I've actually purchased the goflex end separately just to use it for an external sata hookup.

I do know that SeaGate has had major, major problems with some of their firmware before (that is able to be fixed by going mcguyver and hooking up some oddball usb serial connection and typing commands to the actual hard disk controller - standard procedure by seagate is to say it's a total loss, replace it if it's under warranty, kiss your data goodbye, but with the terminal over usb to the controller, you actually get all of your data back and get the hard disk working 100% again - assuming you upgrade the firmware after you fix it, so it doesn't corrupt itself again.

EDIT:  Here's what I mean:

http://www.overclock.net/t/457286/seagate-bricked-firmware-drive-fix-with-pics/40
« Last Edit: April 26, 2012, 07:53:08 pm by jr2 »

 

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Re: Anti-virus softwares - which one and what are its pros/contras?
that's a good idea.  unfortunately the only other hard drives i have are my primary internal and and old IDE.
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Re: Anti-virus softwares - which one and what are its pros/contras?
OUch... well... IDK what to tell you...

What model is your GoFlex?