[Aginor]

Hey guys!

Just a quick question: Is there a turret limit for ships and how high is it?

[MatthTheGeek]

I know the Amaterasu has 169. Dunno how high the limit is, but I think you can go significantly wild. I doubt the limit is really turret-specific, it's more likely that if one exist it would rather be a subobject limit.

[Nuke]

im convinced that any turret limit could be bypassed by using scripted turrets. but ive yet to encounter a situation where i needed to do this. perhaps if you wanted a lot of point defense turrets and didnt want to detract from assault weaponry.

[MatthTheGeek]

Or you could use docked turret ships. There's still the matter of the ship limit (400 per mission), and I do not know if there's a dockpoint limit.

[Alex Heartnet]

Or use docked fighters that happen to have turrets on them, like the Turret/Fighters from I-War 2.

[FreeSpaceFreak]

Was the maximum-objects-in-mission limitation pulled up recently? IIRC, Diaspora ran into it a while ago.

So if you have a reasonable fire rate on all of those turrets, you might run into that limit instead of a hard max-number-of-turrets ceiling. Just something else to keep in mind.

[MatthTheGeek]

http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Engine_limitations

[Aginor]

Thanks, guys!

[Droid803]

I think the turret limit is the uh...per mission subsystem limit, unless that's been lifted.

[zookeeper]

The maximum number of subsystems (or, perhaps, the number of physical subsystems; I'm not sure) per ship is 200. There may be a limit for the number of submodels per ship as well, but it's definitely >200.

[headdie]

just looked at http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Engine_limitations and it's no help

[Droid803]

The maximum number of subsystems (or, perhaps, the number of physical subsystems; I'm not sure) per ship is 200. There may be a limit for the number of submodels per ship as well, but it's definitely >200.

Well then I guess the maximum number of turrets is 200 minus the number of modelled subsystems.
(With up to 25 multiparts as there is a maximum of 50 rotating subobjects, if it hasn't been increased).

...could anyone confirm so that these can be put onto that wiki page?

Along with a bunch of other model related things like maximum polygons per subobject.

There are a lot of engine limitations not on that page.

[Scooby_Doo]

LOL no.... i won't be doing a 22km kilrathi dreadnaught with 100+ turrets for a while 

[Aginor]

Actually I was thinking to do it myself or in cooperation with another modeler, based on your KDN.
But not in the near future, I'm still busy with my missions.

[Black Wolf]

Don't forget if you mod for WCS you'll be using their forked codebase - that may well mean that recent bumps to the limits in FSO may not have occurred in WCS. You might be best off asking one of their coders to confirm these things before embarking on too much work on any major mods.

[Aginor]

Yep, I'm aware of that. But thanks for the reminder. WCS is based on 3.6.10 IIRC, so some restrictions apply (I also encountered them when scripting, but nothing severe until now).
This is pretty low priority as well since I'm busy with other stuff, but I want to check some facts before I even think about really trying it. Most wingnuts are happy with the Saga KDN. But as I learn to mod FS2 better and better I get interested in trying some stuff. The 22km KDN is one of them that could be fun (and if only to show the WC community how bad of an idea the 22km KDN is ).