[Woolie Wool]

Oh my god, it looks...it looks...LIKE A REAPER.

...

RUDIMENTARY CREATURES OF BLOOD AND FLESH. YOU TOUCH MY SOURCE HIERARCHY, FUMBLING IN IGNORANCE, INCAPABLE OF UNDERSTANDING. THERE IS A REALM OF EXISTENCE SO FAR BEYOND YOUR OWN YOU CANNOT EVEN IMAGINE IT. I AM BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION. I AM FREESPACE 2 OPEN.

[Valathil]

ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL

[Cobra]

That was Harbinger, not a Reaper.

[MatthTheGeek]

....

All of my wat.

Harbinger IS a Reaper.

[Cobra]

DERP. That's what I get for posting at 3AM.

[Woolie Wool]

And you're both wrong, because I quoted Sovereign, not Harbinger.

[MatthTheGeek]

And you are mistaken, because we were answering to Valathil, who quoted Harbinger.

[Valathil]

WRONG Harbinger QUOTES ME HOW DARE YOU ASSUME OTHERWISE

[Luis Dias]

In soviet russia... oh nevermind

[yuezhi]

... i'd rather blame reds than give you credit.

I don't know what you're talking about!

you're innocent if you deny that you've holed up your slaves in a gulag so i don't mean you.

[kev11106]

As a coding noob(never have), the question becomes does Codethulhu impede the engine itself of just the streamlined understanding of it?

[z64555]

As a coding noob(never have), the question becomes does Codethulhu impede the engine itself of just the streamlined understanding of it?

Both, really. the fact that nothing is particularly streamlined in FSO makes it difficult to maintain and upgrade. Additionally, there's no telling if the algorithms are the best they can be.

[kev11106]

Starbreeze studios, the makers of the Riddick games, have used their proprietary engine(which to me is one of the best dx9 engines out there) for roughly 12 years but after the release of "Syndicate", which was released a couple of months ago, they retired the engine and did not upgrade to dx11 citing "code bloat"(of course, the head of the company and lead programmer left as well). Is FSO in danger of this? 

[The E]

I don't think so. We are not making an all-purpose engine a la Unreal here; staying focussed on what the engine does best and then adding new gameplay logic, bugfixes, and the occasional graphics features means that we're not in danger of succumbing to big feature creep.

That being said, when looking at Codethulhu (may his memory never leak), it is important to note that the tool used to generate the picture was basically running with wrong settings for FSO's structure; if you analyze any of the bigger subsystems the picture becomes much clearer, and the code much more maintainable.

[Mongoose]

I recently used Codethulhu, or at least his perhaps slightly-less terrifying former self in the guise of the original source code release, as an example of how retail game engines can be a total mess and make fixing certain bugs extremely difficult.  Actually the exact example I used was that memorable incident that cost Battman his blood.

[haloboy100]

Pssh, I loaded that ***** in like 5 seconds.



Didn't make it any less hideous, though.