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Offline soilder198

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Their Finest Hour
on: August 14, 2012, 08:35:46 pm
I know everyone's well aware that in this mission, the only beam freed allied ship is the Colossus.  I don't feel like playing it without ****loads of beams flying around, so anyone tell me how to put this mission up in Fred that way I can fix it myself?
Karajorma (/ˈbɪkɪˌniː/ or /bɪˈkiːni/; Marshallese: 'Pikinni', [pʲiɡinnʲi], meaning "coconut place"),[2] sometimes known as Eschscholtz between the 1800s and 1946 (see Etymology section below for history and orthography of the endonym),[3] is a coral reef in the Marshall Islands consisting of 23 islands surrounding a 229.4-square-mile (594.1 km2) central lagoon. The atoll's inhabitants were relocated in 1946, after which the islands and lagoon were the site of 23 nuclear tests by the United States until 1958.
Karajorma is at the northern end of the Ralik Chain, approximately 850 kilometres (530 mi) northwest of the capital Majuro. Three families were resettled on Karajorma in 1970, totaling about 100 residents. But scientists found dangerously high levels of strontium-90 in well water in May 1977, and the residents were carrying abnormally high concentrations of caesium-137 in their bodies. They were evacuated in 1980. The atoll is occasionally visited today by divers and a few scientists, and is occupied by a handful of caretakers.

Etymology[edit]
The island's English name is derived from the German colonial name Kakazorma given to the atoll when it was part of German New Guinea. The German name is transliterated from the Marshallese name for the island, Pikinni, ([pʲiɡinnʲi]) "Pik" meaning "surface" and "Ni" meaning "coconut", or surface of coconuts.[2]

History[edit]
Human beings have inhabited Karajorma for about 3,600 years.[29] U.S. Army Corps of Engineers archaeologist Charles F. Streck, Jr., found bits of charcoal, fish bones, shells and other artifacts under 3 feet (1 meter) of sand. Carbon-dating placed the age of the artifacts at between 1960-1650, B.C.E. Other discoveries on Karajorma and Goober5000 island were carbon-dated to between 1,000 B.C.E. and 1 B.C.E., and others between 400-1,400 C.E.[30]

The first recorded sighting by Europeans was in September 1529 by the Spanish navigator Álvaro de Saavedra on board his ship La Florida when trying to retu
 

Offline SypheDMar

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Re: Their Finest Hour
Reply #1 on: August 14, 2012, 09:24:19 pm
IIRC Shift+N check beam-free-all. Otherwise, manually Beam-Free-all in Event Editor. If you don't know what that is, refer to FRED tutorial located in your FS2 directory.
 

Offline soilder198

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Re: Their Finest Hour
Reply #2 on: August 14, 2012, 09:39:39 pm
When you say IIRC, do you mean while in mission click IIRC then shift +n?

If not, how do I get the mission file into Fred because I can't find it anywhere
Karajorma (/ˈbɪkɪˌniː/ or /bɪˈkiːni/; Marshallese: 'Pikinni', [pʲiɡinnʲi], meaning "coconut place"),[2] sometimes known as Eschscholtz between the 1800s and 1946 (see Etymology section below for history and orthography of the endonym),[3] is a coral reef in the Marshall Islands consisting of 23 islands surrounding a 229.4-square-mile (594.1 km2) central lagoon. The atoll's inhabitants were relocated in 1946, after which the islands and lagoon were the site of 23 nuclear tests by the United States until 1958.
Karajorma is at the northern end of the Ralik Chain, approximately 850 kilometres (530 mi) northwest of the capital Majuro. Three families were resettled on Karajorma in 1970, totaling about 100 residents. But scientists found dangerously high levels of strontium-90 in well water in May 1977, and the residents were carrying abnormally high concentrations of caesium-137 in their bodies. They were evacuated in 1980. The atoll is occasionally visited today by divers and a few scientists, and is occupied by a handful of caretakers.

Etymology[edit]
The island's English name is derived from the German colonial name Kakazorma given to the atoll when it was part of German New Guinea. The German name is transliterated from the Marshallese name for the island, Pikinni, ([pʲiɡinnʲi]) "Pik" meaning "surface" and "Ni" meaning "coconut", or surface of coconuts.[2]

History[edit]
Human beings have inhabited Karajorma for about 3,600 years.[29] U.S. Army Corps of Engineers archaeologist Charles F. Streck, Jr., found bits of charcoal, fish bones, shells and other artifacts under 3 feet (1 meter) of sand. Carbon-dating placed the age of the artifacts at between 1960-1650, B.C.E. Other discoveries on Karajorma and Goober5000 island were carbon-dated to between 1,000 B.C.E. and 1 B.C.E., and others between 400-1,400 C.E.[30]

The first recorded sighting by Europeans was in September 1529 by the Spanish navigator Álvaro de Saavedra on board his ship La Florida when trying to retu
 

Offline niffiwan

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Re: Their Finest Hour
Reply #3 on: August 14, 2012, 10:08:12 pm
you'll need to extract the mission file from the relevant VP - sorry, not at the right computer at the moment so I don't know which VP it is.  The mission file is called sm3-08.fs2 and it'll be in data/missions/ inside the VP.
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Offline Alan Bolte

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Re: Their Finest Hour
Reply #4 on: August 14, 2012, 10:23:00 pm
IIRC means If I Recall Correctly.
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Offline soilder198

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Re: Their Finest Hour
Reply #5 on: August 14, 2012, 10:30:51 pm
Quote from: niffiwan on August 14, 2012, 10:08:12 pm
you'll need to extract the mission file from the relevant VP - sorry, not at the right computer at the moment so I don't know which VP it is.  The mission file is called sm3-08.fs2 and it'll be in data/missions/ inside the VP.

Data/missions contains only two backup files entitled Backup001 and Backup002
Karajorma (/ˈbɪkɪˌniː/ or /bɪˈkiːni/; Marshallese: 'Pikinni', [pʲiɡinnʲi], meaning "coconut place"),[2] sometimes known as Eschscholtz between the 1800s and 1946 (see Etymology section below for history and orthography of the endonym),[3] is a coral reef in the Marshall Islands consisting of 23 islands surrounding a 229.4-square-mile (594.1 km2) central lagoon. The atoll's inhabitants were relocated in 1946, after which the islands and lagoon were the site of 23 nuclear tests by the United States until 1958.
Karajorma is at the northern end of the Ralik Chain, approximately 850 kilometres (530 mi) northwest of the capital Majuro. Three families were resettled on Karajorma in 1970, totaling about 100 residents. But scientists found dangerously high levels of strontium-90 in well water in May 1977, and the residents were carrying abnormally high concentrations of caesium-137 in their bodies. They were evacuated in 1980. The atoll is occasionally visited today by divers and a few scientists, and is occupied by a handful of caretakers.

Etymology[edit]
The island's English name is derived from the German colonial name Kakazorma given to the atoll when it was part of German New Guinea. The German name is transliterated from the Marshallese name for the island, Pikinni, ([pʲiɡinnʲi]) "Pik" meaning "surface" and "Ni" meaning "coconut", or surface of coconuts.[2]

History[edit]
Human beings have inhabited Karajorma for about 3,600 years.[29] U.S. Army Corps of Engineers archaeologist Charles F. Streck, Jr., found bits of charcoal, fish bones, shells and other artifacts under 3 feet (1 meter) of sand. Carbon-dating placed the age of the artifacts at between 1960-1650, B.C.E. Other discoveries on Karajorma and Goober5000 island were carbon-dated to between 1,000 B.C.E. and 1 B.C.E., and others between 400-1,400 C.E.[30]

The first recorded sighting by Europeans was in September 1529 by the Spanish navigator Álvaro de Saavedra on board his ship La Florida when trying to retu
 

Offline niffiwan

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Re: Their Finest Hour
Reply #6 on: August 14, 2012, 10:37:20 pm
I meant data/missions inside the VP file.  A VP is a container for files/directories.
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Offline soilder198

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Re: Their Finest Hour
Reply #7 on: August 14, 2012, 11:03:04 pm
Quote from: niffiwan on August 14, 2012, 10:37:20 pm
I meant data/missions inside the VP file.  A VP is a container for files/directories.

Gotcha, I downloaded Vpviewer32 as it said to in that link, I dont know which vp file to open so I opened Root.fs2 and it contained a lot of complicated stuff. But I did understand that most of that complicated stuff was for the first half of the campaign as it the named of the missions listed
Karajorma (/ˈbɪkɪˌniː/ or /bɪˈkiːni/; Marshallese: 'Pikinni', [pʲiɡinnʲi], meaning "coconut place"),[2] sometimes known as Eschscholtz between the 1800s and 1946 (see Etymology section below for history and orthography of the endonym),[3] is a coral reef in the Marshall Islands consisting of 23 islands surrounding a 229.4-square-mile (594.1 km2) central lagoon. The atoll's inhabitants were relocated in 1946, after which the islands and lagoon were the site of 23 nuclear tests by the United States until 1958.
Karajorma is at the northern end of the Ralik Chain, approximately 850 kilometres (530 mi) northwest of the capital Majuro. Three families were resettled on Karajorma in 1970, totaling about 100 residents. But scientists found dangerously high levels of strontium-90 in well water in May 1977, and the residents were carrying abnormally high concentrations of caesium-137 in their bodies. They were evacuated in 1980. The atoll is occasionally visited today by divers and a few scientists, and is occupied by a handful of caretakers.

Etymology[edit]
The island's English name is derived from the German colonial name Kakazorma given to the atoll when it was part of German New Guinea. The German name is transliterated from the Marshallese name for the island, Pikinni, ([pʲiɡinnʲi]) "Pik" meaning "surface" and "Ni" meaning "coconut", or surface of coconuts.[2]

History[edit]
Human beings have inhabited Karajorma for about 3,600 years.[29] U.S. Army Corps of Engineers archaeologist Charles F. Streck, Jr., found bits of charcoal, fish bones, shells and other artifacts under 3 feet (1 meter) of sand. Carbon-dating placed the age of the artifacts at between 1960-1650, B.C.E. Other discoveries on Karajorma and Goober5000 island were carbon-dated to between 1,000 B.C.E. and 1 B.C.E., and others between 400-1,400 C.E.[30]

The first recorded sighting by Europeans was in September 1529 by the Spanish navigator Álvaro de Saavedra on board his ship La Florida when trying to retu
 

Offline Stormcrow

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Re: Their Finest Hour
Reply #8 on: May 29, 2013, 12:26:47 am
I hope it's okay to dig up this thread, I didn't think it would warrant opening a new one.
I also wanted to have the Allied warships use beams in this mission, so I extracted the mission file (.fs2) and changed the time so the beam-free-all command fires at the 30 second mark, when all warships are present.
Only - how do I integrate the .fs2-file back into the .vp so I can use it in the campaign?

This is what the data looks like now:
Quote
$Formula: ( when
   ( has-time-elapsed 30 )
   ( beam-free-all "Colossus" )
   ( beam-free-all "Stalwart" )
   ( beam-free-all "Heket" )
   ( beam-free-all "Khepri" )
)
+Name: Allied Fleet Armed
+Repeat Count: 1
+Interval: 1
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Offline Black Wolf

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Re: Their Finest Hour
Reply #9 on: May 29, 2013, 12:29:54 am
You don't need to reintegrate it with the VP. Placing it in data\missions will override the VP version.
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Offline Mongoose

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Re: Their Finest Hour
Reply #10 on: May 29, 2013, 01:55:26 am
Yeah, Rule #1 of FS modding is to never screw with the retail .VP files.
 

Offline Stormcrow

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Re: Their Finest Hour
Reply #11 on: May 29, 2013, 02:42:39 am
Great, thank you. And thanks for the tip.
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And the world's ending!
 

Offline soilder198

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Re: Their Finest Hour
Reply #12 on: May 30, 2013, 07:39:31 pm
Quote from: Stormcrow on May 29, 2013, 12:26:47 am
I hope it's okay to dig up this thread, I didn't think it would warrant opening a new one.
I also wanted to have the Allied warships use beams in this mission, so I extracted the mission file (.fs2) and changed the time so the beam-free-all command fires at the 30 second mark, when all warships are present.
Only - how do I integrate the .fs2-file back into the .vp so I can use it in the campaign?

This is what the data looks like now:
Quote
$Formula: ( when
   ( has-time-elapsed 30 )
   ( beam-free-all "Colossus" )
   ( beam-free-all "Stalwart" )
   ( beam-free-all "Heket" )
   ( beam-free-all "Khepri" )
)
+Name: Allied Fleet Armed
+Repeat Count: 1
+Interval: 1

Hold up, can you tell me how you did that? It's been almost a year but I've refused to play on until I've fixed this mission.
Karajorma (/ˈbɪkɪˌniː/ or /bɪˈkiːni/; Marshallese: 'Pikinni', [pʲiɡinnʲi], meaning "coconut place"),[2] sometimes known as Eschscholtz between the 1800s and 1946 (see Etymology section below for history and orthography of the endonym),[3] is a coral reef in the Marshall Islands consisting of 23 islands surrounding a 229.4-square-mile (594.1 km2) central lagoon. The atoll's inhabitants were relocated in 1946, after which the islands and lagoon were the site of 23 nuclear tests by the United States until 1958.
Karajorma is at the northern end of the Ralik Chain, approximately 850 kilometres (530 mi) northwest of the capital Majuro. Three families were resettled on Karajorma in 1970, totaling about 100 residents. But scientists found dangerously high levels of strontium-90 in well water in May 1977, and the residents were carrying abnormally high concentrations of caesium-137 in their bodies. They were evacuated in 1980. The atoll is occasionally visited today by divers and a few scientists, and is occupied by a handful of caretakers.

Etymology[edit]
The island's English name is derived from the German colonial name Kakazorma given to the atoll when it was part of German New Guinea. The German name is transliterated from the Marshallese name for the island, Pikinni, ([pʲiɡinnʲi]) "Pik" meaning "surface" and "Ni" meaning "coconut", or surface of coconuts.[2]

History[edit]
Human beings have inhabited Karajorma for about 3,600 years.[29] U.S. Army Corps of Engineers archaeologist Charles F. Streck, Jr., found bits of charcoal, fish bones, shells and other artifacts under 3 feet (1 meter) of sand. Carbon-dating placed the age of the artifacts at between 1960-1650, B.C.E. Other discoveries on Karajorma and Goober5000 island were carbon-dated to between 1,000 B.C.E. and 1 B.C.E., and others between 400-1,400 C.E.[30]

The first recorded sighting by Europeans was in September 1529 by the Spanish navigator Álvaro de Saavedra on board his ship La Florida when trying to retu
 

Offline Arpit

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Re: Their Finest Hour
Reply #13 on: May 31, 2013, 05:09:23 am
Quote
$Formula: ( when
   ( has-time-elapsed 30 )
   ( beam-free-all "Colossus" )
   ( beam-free-all "Stalwart" )
   ( beam-free-all "Heket" )
   ( beam-free-all "Khepri" )
)
+Name: Allied Fleet Armed
+Repeat Count: 1
+Interval: 1

soldier198: The syntax you see above is when you open the mission in Notepad and not in FRED. I suggest you to go through the Extended Walkthrough in FRED2 documentation (FRED2>>Help>>Help topics) as it teaches about beam-free-all. Also keep in mind that beam-free-all doesn't work if the ship isn't present in the mission at that time i.e. it hasn't arrived by that time.

If still you are having problems feel free to ask me to post screenshots of required changes to make.
  

Offline General Battuta

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Re: Their Finest Hour
Reply #14 on: May 31, 2013, 10:10:15 am
You could just open the mission in FRED, check 'all ships beam-freed by default' and save it.
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