you may remember my 'mines' question from a week ago, and thank you all for your help. i figured the best way to approach this is to simply create another 'ship class' in the ships.tbl. well, after going in and copy/paste/edit stuff i needed, i went to 'Save As' and saved it as Ships.tbl in the tables directory. when i opened it in the .tbl editor, all i got was gibberish. i've tried editing these files in MS word, notepad, and wordpad. nothing seems to work, i always end up with some kind of gibberish. is there some fundamental idea that i'm missing here? what's wrong?