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Offline Flipside

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though I'm not certain Astronauts still carry suicide pills...

I'm pretty sure they never carried suicide pills...

It'd be just as easy to simply unseal your helmet or open the airlock.  Relatively painless and you're unconscious in 15 seconds.

It seems that you may be correct, apparently they asked Buzz Aldrin "If the jets failed on the lander, what would you do in the time you had left?". His reply was "Try to fix the Lander".

 

Offline Goober5000

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AIUI the real-life protocols are to retreat to the retrograde areas of the station, and in the worst case scenario (for which they still bother pre-planning) bailing out in the Soyuzes. Dunno what they would've done if the shuttle was damaged, though; presumably they did have contingencies in place for an orbiter being unable to re-enter.
In the case of Columbia, if the right people had known about the problem early enough, they could have powered everything down and launched Atlantis on a rescue mission.  (I for one would be very interested in seeing an alternate history movie -- something with the flavor of Apollo 13 -- where this actually happens.  That would probably be too controversial to be made, though.)

If the right people had known about the problem when it was too late to launch Atlantis but the shuttle was still in orbit, there are still things that could have been attempted.  They could have jettisoned the crapton of lab equipment it was carrying in the payload bay, as well as most of the mid-deck cargo, to reduce the mass and thus the re-entry heating.  They could also have modified the re-entry trajectory to reduce the heating on the left wing.  Armchair mission directors are divided on whether any of this would have been enough to prevent the left wing from disintegrating though.

If by some chance the shuttle made it through the re-entry but was too damaged to land, they could have parachuted out.

Whatever way you slice it, though, if you're floating in orbit without both a heat shield and a means of performing a deorbit burn, you're not getting back to Earth alive.

 

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they could have fixed it with enough duct tape.
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Offline watsisname

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BUMP.

Anyone see this yet?  The reviews have been extraordinarily good.
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Offline Herra Tohtori

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Here in the far reaches of the realms, this film will be premiered 8th November. I presume that's how long it takes to ship the film reels over the Atlantic ocean and distribute them to the furthest borderlands of Europe.
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Hey, you can only ride a horse so far per day.

 

Offline redsniper

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BUMP.

Anyone see this yet?  The reviews have been extraordinarily good.

I have.

It's the best space movie.
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Offline watsisname

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Just got back from the theater.  Thoughts:

The good:
-Absolutely stunning visual effects; worth the admission price alone.
-Newtonian physics!  Newtonian physics everywhere!  The whole film should be called Dances with Physics... and Space Junk.
-Love the way they handle sound in space.   Everything is muted as it should be, but you hear all the internal noise the astronauts would be hearing when in direct contact with things, such as when they are working on the Hubble.  Airlock cycling effect is nice, too.
-Excellent cinematography.  Particularly the inside-the-helmet views.
-Altogether it really felt like you were there in space along with the astronauts.  Very immersive, very real.

The bad:  Be aware these may be mild spoilers.
-The treatment of orbital mechanics is absolute trash. :(  The movie pretends that the Hubble, the Shuttle, the ISS, and Tiangong 1 (Chinese Space Station), are all in practically identical orbits.  To be fair, it had to be that way for the movie to work, but it really annoyed me.

-There is no treatment of orbital drift.  In the film the ISS and Tiangong 1 stay something like 100 kilometers from one another throughout several orbits, but orbital mechanics in general does not work that way; they would drift from one another depending on relative inclination and altitude.  This effect also prevents the film's method of transferring to a distant vessel by pointing straight at it and firing the thrusters.  Anyone who has tried to rendezvous two ships in KSP or Orbiter knows what I'm talking about here.

-The debris field which ultimately gets the movie's plot going was created by Russia's intentional destruction of one of their satellites, because it was a classified spy satellite they didn't want known about or something.  Blowing up a satellite in LEO is probably the most stupid thing a country could decide to do, worse than having someone find out about whatever activities you were doing with a classified satellite.  (Newsflash: many countries operate secret spy satellites; it's pretty much taken for granted and many of them are actively tracked even by amateurs.)  But hey, it is Russia after all, and they're crazy. :)

-The debris field from the satellite's destruction was not on an orbit that threatened them, but then within what seemed like a couple of minutes it somehow manages to knock out pretty much all of the communications satellites, thus killing comm between the astronauts and Houston.  At the same time, debris also gets thrown up into an orbit that crosses theirs.  Basically, Kessler Syndrome, but in the span of five minutes.  Yeahno, it would not happen that fast.  But at least it makes for a good movie and a great 'holy ****' moment whenever the debris ****storm starts flying past.

-The dialogue and character development were not bad, but still left something to be desired.  George's character bothered me for some reason, too; I cared a lot more for Sandra. 
Spoiler:
Also, George dies and sets the longest spacewalk record.  Lol.

All in all, very good movie.  Recommended!
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Offline Luis Dias

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I really wanted to see this in 3D, but most likely I'll have to see it at home some months after.

  

Offline newman

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Seen it.

The good:

- Suspense, special effects, Sandra Bullock still looks great in underwear.


The bad:

- That is not how orbital mechanics work. At all. Starting from what causes the mess and ranging towards the resolution of the movie, if you know anything at all about orbital mechanics or about today's orbital operations / space craft, you will spot a number of mistakes. These won't be detected by the majority of the audience, and overall I think it's an interesting take on a sunday afternoon movie. But for a movie that relies almost entirely on realistic space technology of today, it sure gets almost everything wrong.
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