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Wingmen don't attack asteroids?
Hey there,

after many years fixing bugs several missions with FRED i am try to create an own mission this time :).


For the first one i thought a non-combat "Protect ship against asteroids"-Mission could be a good idea. Because you do not have to create much events aswell you do not have to think about balancing things like "How much enemy waves?" and so on.

But it seems that even this easy mission is too difficult for me.

The Situation:
To shorten a transport route and to be safe against NTF attacks, the GTVA redirect a convoy (consists of 1 Hippocrates and 2 GTT Argo) through an Asteroid field.
The mission is easy, the convoy have to reach the other side of the Asteroid field and is escorted by two wings. 4x Alpha and 3x Beta as the player plays Alpha 4 with no command authority.

The Problem:
My wingman do not help me in destruction of the asteroids. Even the asteroids show up in white brackets and are on collision course, both wings stay outside of the field and fly around. Beta has initial orders to guard both GTT Argos as Alpha should guard the Medical frigate.
But as i said, both Alpha and Beta are flying around outside the field and i am alone in the task to protect all three ships against incoming asteroids, of course the defensive turrets on the Transports helps me.

Interestingly, i build in an enemy bomber wing that attacks both Argos for test reasons. Beta attacks them immediately, but still ignores the Asteroids. And on the other side, without an Asteroid field both Alpha and Beta stay near the ships they should guard.


Do i am anything wrong, is there are special event or order needed that the AI attacks Asteroids as well and keep their formation?


I am tried both 3.7.0 and nightly R9806 for fredding and playing.
« Last Edit: October 01, 2013, 01:17:53 pm by Deepstar »
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Re: Wingmen don't attack asteroids?
Do your wingmen have initial orders?
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Re: Wingmen don't attack asteroids?
Do your wingmen have initial orders?

He says they do:

Beta has initial orders to guard both GTT Argos as Alpha should guard the Medical frigate.

  
Re: Wingmen don't attack asteroids?
Do your wingmen have initial orders?

The wings, yes. But not the individual ships, because afaik the wing orders do have a higher priority.

Also the ships have a "Guard <the selected ship>" status in the target monitor in-game.

Actually it seems to work, but only with correct Fred builds?

Is it possible, that there is some kind of compatibility problems during several builds regarding commands that are present in all versions? Because i opened and saved this mission with an outdated 3.6.14 Fred build and it works... even this time one of the Argos stopped in the middle of the field for unknown reasons.

And after i create this mission completely from scratch in only one build, R9862 this time, i do not encounter a problem.

But i encountered also the same bug, that the wingmates don't anything in already released campaigns sometimes. Mostly in campaigns for older builds. 3.6.9 to .12 for example.


EDIT:
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I do have still the same problem. They guard the ships as they should even they attack asteroids that are far away sometimes and that are not on a collision course, but they don't do it in every retry. Sometime they still fly around outside the field and watch what happens...
« Last Edit: October 03, 2013, 08:40:06 am by Deepstar »
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