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Offline AdmiralRalwood

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Re: We need a new installer or we're in trouble.
Reply #80 on: January 09, 2014, 03:46:45 pm
Quote from: Eli2 on January 09, 2014, 01:21:45 am
YAML is as bloated as XML.
And has some very ambiguous definitions of how it handles certain types of values, too. About the only thing YAML has going for it is that it's a lot easier for a human to read/edit than just about anything else, but that's it.

...So yeah, if you're comparing to XML, YAML, and INI files, JSON all the way.
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Re: We need a new installer or we're in trouble.
Reply #81 on: January 11, 2014, 11:49:27 am
I created a Java library which migrates the current installer data format to a proposed JSON format: https://github.com/asarium/fsoi2json
Here is the output when I run it with the current installer data: http://pastebin.com/7i71r8Kg
It already includes preliminary dependency tracking but we will have to improve that with proper version detection.
 

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Re: We need a new installer or we're in trouble.
Reply #82 on: January 12, 2014, 06:23:31 pm
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I might be able to help you guys with this. I package applications as my regular job and work almost exclusively in AdminStudio/Installshield. I can build complex MSI packages to order and would be willing to make a nice professional install sequence for you if MSI format works for your needs?

Let me know/
 

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Re: We need a new installer or we're in trouble.
Reply #83 on: January 12, 2014, 06:35:16 pm
I think the issue is that it needs to be an online installer, because so many of the individual components are updated so constantly.
  

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Re: We need a new installer or we're in trouble.
Reply #84 on: January 12, 2014, 07:43:51 pm
I'm just going to close this, because there's no use having half a dozen people all duplicating each others' efforts.  Especially not when, as I said, the FSO Installer is nearly ready to go.

My intended date for release is January 19th and I'm going to stick to that.  We can also revisit Hellzed's and m!m's ideas for an online portal at that time.

And if it turns out I can't make that deadline for whatever reason, I'll reopen this thread.
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