[Kolgena]

Yeah. McDonald's is considered luxury food that is far beyond the budget of lower class people in China (Also, pizza hut is upper class fine dining, hilariously enough, at several hundred a pizza).

But we were talking about food stamps in America, so yeah, Mcdonalds being dirt cheap is still a legitimate point. You can't blame people for being unable to cook economically when that's not at all the limiting factor when food stamps run out early.

Also, blaming poor people for being poor is similar to blaming handicapped people for being handicapped. Oftentimes (but not always, Darwin Awards exist for a reason), they are victims of circumstance, and they're really not trying to keep their life ****ty. However, their life remains ****ty because lots of factors prevent them from making improvements to their way of living.

[Polpolion]

Mostly in 'murica tho.

Just gonna point out that looking at food prices in "murica" is a pretty pointless thing to do. Cost of living varies wildly across states, in plenty of places McDonald's is an economic way to eat and plenty of places McDonalds is not an economic way to eat.

Plus if you're actually poor and you're eating at McDonald's you're probably going to be getting a few dollar burgers instead of the $6 big mac. You're spending half the price and getting a good deal more food.

[Scotty]

i can get 400gr of minced meat for roughly 3$, 5-8 hamburger buns for $2, 200gr of cheese for 2$

Why the **** does Croatia measure things in grains?

[StarSlayer]

I assume he means grams.

[karajorma]

Yeah. McDonald's is considered luxury food that is far beyond the budget of lower class people in China (Also, pizza hut is upper class fine dining, hilariously enough, at several hundred a pizza).

Off-topic I know, but I didn't know of any fellow HLPers in China, whereabouts are you? I'm in Lijang myself.

As for the Pizza Hut issue, I always make jokes that in China McDonald's is considered a reasonable place to take a girl on a fairly early date and that Pizza Hut would actually impress her rather than making her wonder if you were 15 and had to borrow money from your dad for the date.

[666maslo666]

Here in Czechia McDonalds is quite pricey, too. I can get a complete dinner of quality cooked food in a restaurant for less than a price of their burger.

[Grizzly]

Here in Czechia McDonalds is quite pricey, too. I can get a complete dinner of quality cooked food in a restaurant for less than a price of their burger.

This begs the question: How can Mcdonald's even exist in Czechia, as the alternatives are just better in every way?

[666maslo666]

Here in Czechia McDonalds is quite pricey, too. I can get a complete dinner of quality cooked food in a restaurant for less than a price of their burger.

This begs the question: How can Mcdonald's even exist in Czechia, as the alternatives are just better in every way?

I guess thats because its fast food, the food is caloric so going by price per calorie it is probably competitive, and the products are tasty in their own way.

[karajorma]

This begs the question: How can Mcdonald's even exist in Czechia, as the alternatives are just better in every way?

I'm more amazed it survives in China. It costs around 30RMB for meal here. For 12-13 you can go to any Lanzhou noodles shop and eat a bowl of noodles better than anything you've ever eaten in the a western Chinese place. For just 7 or 8 you can get a really good bowl of daoshao mian (a cheap and hearty bowl of noodles in broth).