[mjn.mixael]

The breach in trust is definitely a thing, but I roll my eyes at the subtle finger pointing to the HLP admins. I have serious doubts they worked together to perform some kind of project coup. That's nonsense.

The fact that the dump was posted by an account made months before the only post by the account shows forethought and probably some second guessing at times. The way it was dumped was pretty cowardly, though, if you ask me.

Finally, I'm thoroughly against any sort of BWO remaster. The cats out of the bag at this point, but anything short of fixing CTDs is making some version of BWO that is not actually BWO. The version everyone wants doesn't exist and no amount of polish or tweaks on the dump will make it that. People need to be OK with it being a dump and not a release. Ever.

And to Fusion's question, I don't think it matters if the team would have finished it and released it or not. It's their work, not the community's. I think they should have decided years ago what the plan was and been more clear about that plan. If they weren't going to finish it, then dumping the assets to respect all of the original team member's work would have been a good decision. Or to finish it in some basic form would be been cool for everyone. The worst decision was the non-decision of constant limbo and that's probably why this person finally got fed up and dumped it in the first place.

But again, anything beyond fixing obvious crashes makes this not BWO. This is, and always will be, a dump. Not a release. Please, I beg of everyone out of respect for the original authors, do not treat it like a release that can be finished or remastered.

[Gloriano]

BWO dump was one of the most random thing i have seen in a long time and it was made in a wrong way without asking whole team what they think about it

[Mito [PL]]

tl;dr

mod becomes a community wide meme, symbol for unfinishedness

internal bad faith actors / ego trips intentionally cockblock mod from releasing anything

someone becomes sad about so much work going to waste, decides 'fine i'll do it myself' like some vigilantee, dump goes live


drama


wishing a successful session of stitching it together, intrigued to play some good ol classic mod once again

[CT27]

And to Fusion's question, I don't think it matters if the team would have finished it and released it or not. It's their work, not the community's. I think they should have decided years ago what the plan was and been more clear about that plan. If they weren't going to finish it, then dumping the assets to respect all of the original team member's work would have been a good decision. Or to finish it in some basic form would be been cool for everyone. The worst decision was the non-decision of constant limbo and that's probably why this person finally got fed up and dumped it in the first place.

But again, anything beyond fixing obvious crashes makes this not BWO. This is, and always will be, a dump. Not a release. Please, I beg of everyone out of respect for the original authors, do not treat it like a release that can be finished or remastered.

I want to make sure I'm understanding your position correctly.

You're saying something like: 
"The BWO team may have made a number of poor design and administrative decisions over the years that prevented an actual release of BWO.  It's also a shame they seem to want it to remain in perpetual limbo when there are apparently those who want to push it over the finish line or at least release the assets.  However, not releasing assets or at least a playable rough draft campaign at FS2 retail level...that is their right to do so."

Is that kind of what you're saying?  (I'm not criticizing that particular opinion in this post, I just want to be sure I'm understanding you correctly)