[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Levyathan


Yes, nothing better than a hot steamy cup of coffee on the afternoon when it's 35 degrees Celsius outside and you can feel the constant drops of sweat running through your face and pouring to the ground. Refreshing.

He said a chilly afternoon, Southerner, not a Christmas afternoon!

[Setekh]

Originally posted by Levyathan
Yes, nothing better than a hot steamy cup of coffee on the afternoon when it's 35 degrees Celsius outside and you can feel the constant drops of sweat running through your face and pouring to the ground. Refreshing.

Southern Hemisphere! Whoooooo!

[Joey_21]

Javascript may not be Java but it is a good starting point.

I find Javascript much more handier to deal with these days now that I learned java (stupid semi-colons after each statement! ) but hey, it'd good to have Java support too (for those really tedious assignments that you must do for class to get a decent grade for).

[Levyathan]

Originally posted by Sandwich
He said a chilly afternoon, Southerner, not a Christmas afternoon!

Exactly. That's the closest thing to a chilly afternoon I'll be getting for the next four months.

[Styxx]

Aldo's post pretty much sums it up - as I agree (obviously) that there are fundamental differences between your "pure" Java and Javascript, Javascript is based and built upon Java itself, and that's why I maintain that Javascript is a form of Java. Anyone is free, though, to ignore the words on the original press release and believe whatever they want.

And about the applicability of Java, you're forgetting the single largest market where it is being employed right now - corporate applications. Java (and more specifically, J2EE) is the single most used technology for corporate solutions, and that's why Microsoft is trying to create a whole hype around .NET - it is their attempt at a response to the increasing popularity and use of Java by the clients that really matter. As for its use on "lesser" applications, it's getting better at it every day, and even if you can still argue that you can do "better" on a different language (such as C++), you'll have a harder time trying to argue that you can do it faster.

[mikhael]

Styxx, I quoted the same press release--and Sun and Netscape said it was a COMPLEMENT too Java, not developed FROM Java.

If having similar syntax and working well with product A means that product B is "developed from" or a "subset of" Product A, then I'd respectfully ask you to refer to both as C-Java and C-JScript.

[Nuclear1]

Originally posted by Kamikaze


Bah, I'm 14 and coffee/tea are my favorite drinks! Ya gotta love a hot latte on a chilly afternoon.

Coffee I don't like

Tea on the other hand..... hmmm...... tea..... *drools*

[ZylonBane]

Styxx, have you ever considered joining the Flat Earth Society? I hear your hardheadedness and resolute disregard for reality are just what they're looking for!

[Sesquipedalian]

Wow, is this ever a pointless argument.

[diamondgeezer]

It's not entirely pointless. After all, Zylon now feels a little bit better about himself - don't you, Zylon?

[ShadowWolf_IH]

boy am i glad i just come here to have fun and to learn how to build things for one of my hobbies.

[diamondgeezer]

[Sarcasm Inspector] You have a licence for that statement, sonny? [/Sarcasm Inspector]

[ShadowWolf_IH]

Just a temporary permit, but i was in the presence of a liscenced sarcasm creator.

[Styxx]

Originally posted by mikhael
If having similar syntax and working well with product A means that product B is "developed from" or a "subset of" Product A, then I'd respectfully ask you to refer to both as C-Java and C-JScript.

Indeed, if it was like that, I wouldn't be saying that it is a form of Java. The problem is, it has the exact same syntax (allowing for the transparent typecasting), and a perfect subset of the API provided by the original Java specification. It is not Java, it is a form of Java, as I said before and someone seems to have misinterpreted.

Originally posted by ZylonBane
Styxx, have you ever considered joining the Flat Earth Society?

No, not really, even though I heard something about it a while ago. Have you?





Anyway, this debate is pointless.

[Stunaep]

Originally posted by Styxx


I think we're talking about them lawmaking people not leting Microsoft create another monopoly by stopping people from using technology from other manufacturers on their systems...

that good, aye?

[ZylonBane]

Syxx, what exactly is your malfunction here? The web and usenet are jammed with explanations of why Java and JavaScript aren't remotely related. You will not find anything authoritative on the web supporting your assertion that one is an offshoot of the other. I have pointed you to multiple authoritative sources which you have blithely ignored.

They both have C-like syntax. They both have "Java" in their names. That is the full extent of their affinity. Why can't you grasp that? Where are your supporting sources?

[Styxx]

Originally posted by ZylonBane
They both have C-like syntax. They both have "Java" in their names. That is the full extent of their affinity.

Oh, of course.

[CP5670]

Anyway, this debate is pointless.

who cares, arguments are fun; if I knew anything about this I would join in too.

[Levyathan]

Knowing something about the discussion before joining in it. That's a new concept.

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Levyathan
Knowing something about the discussion before joining in it. That's a new concept.

Bah! You have no idea what you're talking about, do you? People have been entering into discussions, debates, and yes, even arguements, without knowing a single thing about the subject matter, for the last, errr..... oh, must be decades, at least! Centuries even! Millennia!

.... I think.... not too sure.