[Petrarch of the VBB]

Have the creators of Lightwave released any of the older versions? Like Caligari have done with truespace?

[Stryke 9]

No. Older versions of Lightwave suck pretty badly, anyway. It started out as one of those crappy budget programs.

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Bugger.

[Stryke 9]

Try an old version of MAX. They're pretty decent... well, at least 3 was. Never heard about anything before 3, maybe that's for a reason.

[Petrarch of the VBB]

But where might I find an old version of max?

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Stryke 9
No. Older versions of Lightwave suck pretty badly, anyway. It started out as one of those crappy budget programs.

No it didn't. It started bundled with the Video Toaster and you couldn't get it unless you had a huge chunk of spare change!

[Nico]

Originally posted by Stryke 9
Try an old version of MAX. They're pretty decent... well, at least 3 was. Never heard about anything before 3, maybe that's for a reason.

no, 3 is the crappiest max there is, buggy as hell.  2.5 is way better.

[Stryke 9]

Kara: I've got an old copy. It's rather reminiscent of one of those cheap DOS apps where you can't see what you're doing and can't operate the controls, but get the sense that something important is supposed to be happening. In other words, complete piece of ****, far worse than most of the contemporary programs, and from all I've heard basically just a side thing people would get when they couldn't afford CAD or MAX. Maybe you're thinking of later or something.

Venom: OK. I dunno.

Got a copy?

[Nico]

no, you'd urinate on it.

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Well as it turns out I seem to have...acquired Lightwave 7, ahem.
It was on a compilation disc, honest.

Anyway, the point is I haven't a clue how to use the bugger, so can someone point me to a good tutorial for it?

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Stryke 9
Kara: I've got an old copy. It's rather reminiscent of one of those cheap DOS apps where you can't see what you're doing and can't operate the controls, but get the sense that something important is supposed to be happening. In other words, complete piece of ****, far worse than most of the contemporary programs, and from all I've heard basically just a side thing people would get when they couldn't afford CAD or MAX. Maybe you're thinking of later or something.

Nope. I'm not. Lightwave started out on the Amiga and was hugely expensive (well the bundle you had to buy to get hold of it was expensive because you had to buy the Toaster to get it).
 What you've got is probably the first PC port or maybe something designed to allow Amigas to use the PC's higher processing power.
 I don't disagree that the first version of lightwave for the PC was crap (All the Amiga modellers who tried it pretty much hated it, complaining that several functions didn't work as well as on the Amiga) but I do disagree that it was cheap. It was actually pretty expensive from what I remember

[mikhael]

Karajorma is absolutely correct. I had my first experience with Lightwave on the Video Toaster, followed by the PC version, and hated them both (the VT version for being bizarre and the PC version being broken). Part of that had something to do, I think, with being used to working in AutoCAD. In fact, this is what turned me off to 3d apps until Truespace came along (I also tried 3dsMax somewhere in there and was like, "hey, lightwave... with windows widgets... *garbage*").

Petrarch, hit flay.com and lwg3d.com for tutorials etc. If your version is warez (which it sounds like it is) you will likely be banned on lwg3d for mentioning it, though.