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Dev Thread: Asteroid Installation
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yeah... but you see, they haven't finished it quite yet, hence it not being done.....
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I think it's GE doing it. And he wants to put on asteroid damage, so it may take a while.

So hold on, it'll be done when it gets done!
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So hold on, it'll be done when it gets done!


You can say that again... :p

*has a feeling he knows what's going to happen*

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O ye of little faith... ;)

You ought to know by now that if I'm working on something I get it finished as soon as I can. If it's got LODs and debris I can get you a POF by Tuesday. I'm more likely to convert a carrier for the TVWP first, though, then finish the model I'm working on now and release that. If I'm doing extensive model enhancement with dynamic damage and interior tunnels, and if there aren't any trimmings like LODs, then we're looking at closer to 2 weeks.

That's my estimate. You'll get the bill in the mail. :thepimp:
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O ye of little faith... ;)

You ought to know by now that if I'm working on something I get it finished as soon as I can. If it's got LODs and debris I can get you a POF by Tuesday. I'm more likely to convert a carrier for the TVWP first, though, then finish the model I'm working on now and release that. If I'm doing extensive model enhancement with dynamic damage and interior tunnels, and if there aren't any trimmings like LODs, then we're looking at closer to 2 weeks.

That's my estimate. You'll get the bill in the mail. :thepimp:


Would you kill me if I told you that I have an updated MAX file? :nervous:

I've made two versions of the base - one with a regular dome, and one with a geodome, with geodome-appropriate textures to boot. ;) I also added to both versions an outcropping of asteroid above the level of the dome, and a conning tower at the dome peak.

Here's some screenies:


Regular dome:




GeoDome™:


I haven't made any debris, dynamic damage parts, or LODs, though. All of which you, GE, were going to do, so I sincerely hope you haven't begun! :nervous:
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Originally posted by HotSnoJ


Ya but the problem is you can only have one of these "Asteroid Installations". So you'll have to have mutiple ones for any campaign needing more then one. :no-smilie-for-this:


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unless you make a standard "naked" facility and give it docking points to attach various pieces of rock to :)

 

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Methinks we'll just leave it at one facility like this in the galaxy, m'kay? You may get another one if I decide to build the other concept model I drew. ;)
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Regular dome:


I like this one much better. :yes: The other one looks a bit rickety and rather out of place on such an imposing installation.
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just make different asteroid versions and it will be realistic to more than 1 of these installations in a campaign

 

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I'm making the one version, that's it. I'm also making the MAX file public, so if you want to take the model and run with it, go right ahead - just give minimum credit where due, thank you very much. :)

Here's the latest MAX file, with both geodome and regular dome. I tried to convert into POF, but the custom textures I made aren't showing up in FRED2. Any clues? They were originally 512x512 PCX, but then I tried 256x256, which still didn't work. geodome2.pcx and geodome5.pcx, IIRC.
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Originally posted by Sandwich
I'm making the one version, that's it. I'm also making the MAX file public, so if you want to take the model and run with it, go right ahead - just give minimum credit where due, thank you very much. :)

Here's the latest MAX file, with both geodome and regular dome. I tried to convert into POF, but the custom textures I made aren't showing up in FRED2. Any clues? They were originally 512x512 PCX, but then I tried 256x256, which still didn't work. geodome2.pcx and geodome5.pcx, IIRC.


Not to sound condescending Sandwich, but are you sure you are saving the PCX files in the correct color depth?  They should be 8-bit I think.
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Not to sound condescending Sandwich, but are you sure you are saving the PCX files in the correct color depth?  They should be 8-bit I think.


Pretty easy to forget to do that actually :) I once spent a few minutes scratching my head over that one.
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Not to sound condescending Sandwich, but are you sure you are saving the PCX files in the correct color depth?  They should be 8-bit I think.


Uhm... no, I'm not sure... not sure at all. :lol:
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I'm making the one version, that's it. I'm also making the MAX file public, so if you want to take the model and run with it, go right ahead - just give minimum credit where due, thank you very much. :)
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it was just referred to thosde who want more than 1 of these installations in the same campaign: just change the asteroid texture, and maybe change the geometry of the rock (pretty easy even for non experienced modelers), and the game is done:)

 

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it was just referred to thosde who want more than 1 of these installations in the same campaign: just change the asteroid texture, and maybe change the geometry of the rock (pretty easy even for non experienced modelers), and the game is done:)



...And the intersection of installation hull with the new rock...and the position of the upper hangar bay... and possibly the lower ones as well...

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It's easy enough to use the SCP Texture Replacement to give it a green or orange asteroid texture, on a per-mission basis.

I've compiled a very basic POF of his original model, for those who just can't wait. I'll upload it soon. I haven't started on the fiddly bits yet, so I'll use the new scene for that. Sandwich, would you mind if I reapplied some of the maps and optomized your model some?
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I've compiled a very basic POF of his original model, for those who just can't wait. I'll upload it soon. I haven't started on the fiddly bits yet, so I'll use the new scene for that. Sandwich, would you mind if I reapplied some of the maps and optomized your model some?


There's a few updates I did to the geometry and textures in the latest version, so catch me on ICQ somtime and I'll show you what I changed, and you can show me what you're suggesting. :)
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