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Offline phreak

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So do you guys call him "Cretin"

haha i made a funny... *runs*
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did you read the quote above, it was a diebold system they were talking about in that precint -- that mesage is from Diebold's internal support message board


The article (at the end) refers to electronic voting being a good idea after the Florida debacle - i could have misread it though.

Anyways, it's not exacly a shock to find that the US voting system is corrupt.  I'm just worried that the same thing could happen over here.

 

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Corruption's one thing. The US has a long, proud history of basically nothing but corrupt elections. But this overt? That's awfully insulting to our collective intelligence, man.

 

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I'm sure I've said this to you before Stryke: it's your ****ing country, grab a gun and do something about it.

 

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aldo: *shakes head* read entire article
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Originally posted by PhReAk
So do you guys call him "Cretin"

haha i made a funny... *runs*


chretien in french means christian.
"laughs at the implications" :p
On a side note, what are you all surprised about?
It's been known from day 1 that Bush didn't win in California. You know, proofs are cool, but when you KNOW already, well, there's no mean acting all surprised and stuff.
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aldo: *shakes head* read entire article

I did.

par example;

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Diebold donated more than $195,000 to the Republican party in 2000 and 2001, and Walden W. O'Dell, the company's CEO, pledged in an invitation to a fund-raiser to deliver Ohio to George W. Bush in the next election.


The article clearly refers a crappy voting system which is in bed with the incumbent party.......and hence is allowed to escape with incompetence that threatens the validity of the whole electoral process.

But I'm more referring to a system that means anyone can stand for President - provided they can raise ~$500 million.  Hence, you end with a country with a dodgily elected Persident (based on the result of a state ran by his brother) who made a lot of money from oil and which ends up attacking a country with one of the worlds largest oil reserves.

 One where the costs of running are so high that the political parties are forced to toady up to big donors to afford to compete - and money buys influence.  

And the problem is that it's starting to happen over here too...it's not so blatant, but that's because the Uk is just smaller and the figures aren't as big.  The (admittedly utterly useful) leader of the Tory party was pretty much forced out by donors complaints, for example.  not to mention the Bernie Ecclestone deal over tobacco sponsorship a while back.

 

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DG: You have no idea how much I'd like to. But the odds are something like five million to one, with the entire ****ing rest of the country just sitting passively by unwilling to do jack **** about anything- it's not even that there's no chance of success that's keeping me from doing pretty much just what you say, that doesn't bother me, it's that it wouldn't even make an impression. The most an individual in this country can do is, say, kill a few hundred people (with a little planning and effort, it's not even that hard)- but that doesn't accomplish anything, the message rarely gets understood, and you've just made life worse for all around. Polticizing, stirring up trouble, going the whole Yippie route would be ideal, but it's far too easy for people to dismiss you as some lone nut and stop listening right off the bat- believe me, it happened once before.

Beh, one of these days I'll come across at least one person who's really ****ing alive, and cares enough to do something, and then we'll see if we can't change things. In the meantime, there's not a whole lot to do.

Plus it really kind of raises the question of whether there's any point. Most of the people I hear *****ing and remaining unwilling to do anything about the really bad **** here are the sort that'll have forgotten all about it with a couple more years of same. Doesn't really make you wanna help 'em, you know?

But hey, any volunteers?
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aldo: you're still looking at the wrong part
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aldo: you're still looking at the wrong part


Well, correct me then & point to the part you're referring to -  don't just sit there posting 'you're looking at the wrong part', cos that's no use to me.

 

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THE DAMN QUOTE YOU BLOODY NITWIT
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WHIT'S YER POINT, CALLER!?

In case you can't get it into your thick little skull, I was implying that the company in incompetent but escapes with it because they're in bed with the Government - i.e. corruption.

Woul;d you mind explaining what in that nice little quote of yours actually contradicts that?

Call me a nitwit and I'll break your ****ing neck, alright sunshine?

 

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Apparently voting machines aren't the only crappy piece of equipment they make

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Offline Stryke 9

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Aldo: He's talking about the Florida bit- he still thinks they were around during the election, and tipped the scales there. They didn't, but try telling him that.

Kara: Ain't it great how towards the end they reassure people by saying that to hack into ATMs people would have to "go through a lot of juicier networks"? Wow, I sure feel like opening a bank account with that woman's company.
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Deleted in response to me, or him? Should I be vaguely offended or not? :D

  

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For the sake of clarity;

Maybe.