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Offline Petrarch of the VBB

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Reply #40 on: February 11, 2004, 02:52:38 pm
Accepted.

Where's your source that says it's based on the 113, btw?
 

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Reply #41 on: February 11, 2004, 03:16:44 pm
I'm a fan of the Warrior APC, incidentally



It has a chaingun. :)
 

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Reply #42 on: February 11, 2004, 03:32:03 pm
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Where's your source that says it's based on the 113, btw?


3rd paragraph... sort of.
http://www.rememuseum.org.uk/vehicles/trrv/vehfv432.htm

FV430 paragraph.... again, sort of.
http://www.fv432.com/fv43xfamily.htm#fv432familytop

Both those indicate it was more of a direct rival to the M113. They took what wasn't broke, didn't fix it, and came up with the Fv43x series. :p
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Reply #43 on: February 11, 2004, 03:34:34 pm
The Swedes have an APC of a similar design, iirc. But rather than the pintle mounted MG that the 113 and FV432 have as standard issue, it has a turret with a 20mm cannon.
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Reply #44 on: February 11, 2004, 03:42:14 pm
By the way, for those of you who think that MODding is something done only to games and cars, APCs aren't exempt. :D
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Reply #45 on: February 11, 2004, 03:44:26 pm
The thing I like about M113s is they're not that much longer than your average car.

The times I've tried to talk my dad into buying a Vulcan...
 

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Reply #46 on: February 11, 2004, 03:49:57 pm
I have to get one of those things.

That, and when I can afford it, one of those nice uber-accurate Goalkeeper miniguns with the nearly fist-sized HE rounds, and I don't think I'll ever want for anything again.

Well, yeah, food and ****, I guess, but you know what I mean.
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Reply #47 on: February 11, 2004, 03:51:48 pm
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The Swedes have an APC of a similar design, iirc. But rather than the pintle mounted MG that the 113 and FV432 have as standard issue, it has a turret with a 20mm cannon.
Go Sweden!


http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/armored_personnel_carriers/m-113/HVMS.html

Gotta love the sound of "Hyper-Velocity Guns", eh? :D
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Reply #48 on: February 11, 2004, 03:54:08 pm
"Unheard of amounts of armour"

I like that
 

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Reply #49 on: February 11, 2004, 03:57:08 pm
Does have a certain ring to it, doesn't it? :drevil:

[q]"The HVMS gun was a small 60mm gun that provided high velocity kinetic energy projectiles to penetrate unheard of amounts of armour at considerable ranges."[/q]

As opposed to "...at inconsiderable ranges."? :D
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Reply #50 on: February 11, 2004, 04:00:11 pm
I dunno. The turret's nice, but it just mars the look. You wanna tank, you get a tank.
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Reply #51 on: February 11, 2004, 04:03:18 pm
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I dunno. The turret's nice, but it just mars the look. You wanna tank, you get a tank.


What, on the Warrior?  Gotta love the functionality, though.  

On an aside, I remember a story in the Iraq war,  when the British army was attacking insurgents holed up in a building - they simply drove the Warrior straight through the walls and overwhelmed them :D
 

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Reply #52 on: February 11, 2004, 04:54:42 pm
Hey Sandwich that's a cool video... not every day you get to see the IDF cruisin along...

By the way, Sandwich, I heard you guys had a small earthquake today. Everyone okay?

APC... cool... I'd soooo like to drive that to school. Imagine the looks I'd get... ;7;)
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Reply #53 on: February 11, 2004, 06:16:52 pm
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I'd soooo like to drive that to school. Imagine the looks I'd get...


...as you are carried away by the authorities.

All the while real threats to society are slipping through their fingers. :p
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Reply #54 on: February 11, 2004, 08:44:35 pm
If it's okay for a kid to drive a Hummer to school then I think I'm entitled to drive an APC to school. After all, it's only military surplus.
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Reply #55 on: February 12, 2004, 03:23:34 am
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By the way, Sandwich, I heard you guys had a small earthquake today. Everyone okay?


Heh, yeah... I was in the throes of running around like a headless chicken getting things ready to come home from reserves, so I didn't feel the thing. But others in my unit said they felt it - they thought something like: "D9? Nope, none of them around here. Tank? Nope, they aren't here either. Must be an earthquake!" :D
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