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Offline Singh

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As I've said before, fate and destiny ARE fixed because free will is an illusion.

Physics dictates, even under chaos-theory, that 'somewhere' there's a reason for everything. And there's a reason for that 'somewhere' too, and a reason for......well, you get the idea.


The actual thing is that 'free will' does exist. Its there and its available - but its just that we cannot use it, since it is cancelled out by the 'inteference' generated by the butterfly effect (chaos theory actually refers to something else other than cascade reactions I think).

I've had this really, really strange idea that if you went towards the edges of the universe, and wished to cross over into the nothingness beyond, what would happen? Would you just disappear into the nothingness, since no physical laws are present? or would the laws break down the further and further away you got from the main 'body' of sorts? Or Would you become an island of order in a see of nothingness - which implies that your order than be impressed onto the nothingness, allowing it to be moulded into whatever you wished it to be, allowing you to become God?
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Quick thing though:
If knowledge is power, and power corrupts. Then an all-powerful, all knowledgeful being is all-corrupted. :ha:

Of course, I'll get the reply that the big G doesn't play by those rules, but going off the whole 'jealous god' routine I'd say that the statement above is right :p
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Also, if you're all-knowing, you know how to have all that power and knowledge without it corrupting you.

This is why I hate infinites.
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Offline Stryke 9

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However, being all-corrupted, you wouldn't give a damn.

I should know.

 

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Also, if you're all-knowing, you know how to have all that power and knowledge without it corrupting you.

This is why I hate infinites.


I personally dont mind infinities, if you think of it in a way, they are actually finite :nervous:

But when the issues of scale come into play...your better off dead and not knowing.:doubt: :eek:
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The actual thing is that 'free will' does exist. Its there and its available - but its just that we cannot use it, since it is cancelled out by the 'inteference' generated by the butterfly effect (chaos theory actually refers to something else other than cascade reactions I think).


Uhm, no. You're mixing up the ability to do ANYTHING with the ability to decide to take a certain action. The former is restricted by the laws of physics (for the most part), while the latter has no restrictions whatsoever. Even your own personal moral code or conscience (sp?), while it certainly CAN have an affect on your end decision, can also be ignored utterly if you so decide.
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