[kasperl]

well, there are planse for animated transperency.........

[Drew]

i know it wouild be a pain, but couldnt we update the ani's?

[kasperl]

once for every different island?

and if you do it Nico's way, and the SCP makes animated transperency, you could make sexps for when on subsystem on the island explodes, the same happens under water.

[Shinobi]

Problem is, the framerates are already stupidly low. Adding another island wouldd probably make it unplayable

[Nico]

well, I suppose the framerate is down because of the animated sea, not the island. I doubt that mirrored island would change much.

[Flipside]

You are correct Nico, that's a 512 x 512 ANI, and it eats a lot of CPU The island is actually only about 5000 polys, and as you said, it would be perfectly happy, and not look all to different being half that

Thanks for the advice on skinning the island btw, that one was a bit thrown together, but I've got something like a high-class version of Bryce, which exports the landscapes as .OBJ files, I used it last time for the shape, but I've found it can export textures/bumpmaps too, so I might give that a go

[Nico]

you know, there might be a better way to "animate" the sea than use an ani. I believe you can have opacity chanels on normal maps, right?
I figured the "sea waving" pattern works quite ok for that:
make two planes ( almost overlaping, one on top of the other ) with a greyscaled version of them as opacity maps, and make them scroll two different ways.
Of course, that would need some source editing, I know there's map pan on the beams, but I suppose that doesn't exists for meshes.

[Stealth[cro]]

*stares for about 5 minutes*

Awesome....

This engine is just begging for an AirForces total conv... *bites tongue* Nevermind.

About water... does the revision you guys are working with support partial transparency? I suppose it could help with the water plane.

[Anaz]

just one question. What is the name of the water texture?

[Flipside]

It's a home-made animation, I think I called it 'Waterplane.ani' if that helps

[Anaz]

hmmm...alright...

*goes back into his dark lurking hole to think*

[Bri_Dog]

What do you use to creat the terrain? If you like I could make some for you with terragen?

[Stealth[cro]]

Terragen sounds good, Bryce'd do even better if it came to creating exact terrains. (God bless grayscale maps).

[.::Tin Can::.]

A refreshing change from space combat: ground combat

[Vasudan Admiral]

terragen is horrible for creating actual terrain meshes IIRC, but i *think* bryce is what flip used here, not entirely sure tho. thanks muchly for the suggestions and offer tho

hmm, actually i wonder if terragen could be used to create the terrain's map - taking a screenie looking straight down at it may in some cases work, except for lighting. and terragen'd water can look amazingly real on high settings

[Setekh]

Originally posted by Kalfireth
I think some people are losing site of the fact that FS2 has come so damn far. This kind of thing would never have been possible a few years ago. Look at it now! Sure it's not as beautiful as Breed or Halo or Farcry but for a 5+ year old space sim, it's damn impressive. And as they've pointed out it's not even a beta yet. I'm impressed. Nice job guys!

True dat, I think we need to have a good long look at how far we've come. Well said, T.

[Bri_Dog]

Originally posted by Vasudan Admiral
terragen is horrible for creating actual terrain meshes IIRC, but i *think* bryce is what flip used here, not entirely sure tho. thanks muchly for the suggestions and offer tho

Well, you *can* sculpt the terrain to what you want. It can be a pain in the ass though.

hmm, actually i wonder if terragen could be used to create the terrain's map - taking a screenie looking straight down at it may in some cases work, except for lighting. and terragen'd water can look amazingly real on high settings [/B]

Well, the offer is open so pm me if you want.