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Offline Raptor

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Well, that was intresting...

I was about to post that my second attempt was much better than before, but PCS still refused to convert the .cob file.

I decided to run PCS one more time so I could jote down the error message incase someone knew what it meant.

But when I ran it, it converted the model:wtf:

I THINK my graphical problems beofre were due to using Cob2FS2 to convert the model, it couldn't handle faces with inside corners.

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Offline Setekh

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Offline Raptor

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Thanks for the support guys!:D

Okay, PCS is really begining to annoy me...:hopping:

It will only convert the test object under very certain circumstances...

The block is meant to be 80m x 80m.

However PCS only converts the 1/4 scale version when the 'conversion scaling factor' is set to 1.  ANY other attempt causes it to throw up this error message:


"Did tyou use something other that TrueSpace?"

'Stack overflow protection was engaged,
please correct the errors in this model (too many polygons in the same average location).'
'Compile Aborted after GenerateBSP reached depth of 1000 recursions.'

I assume someone here knows :wtf: that means? I haven't a clue.:confused:

I'd best point out this copy of PCS crashes every time I try to convert a high-poly craft (well, I sould say high-vertext craft.  Anything with more that 4000 verteices/points -> crash).
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Offline Taristin

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Kazan told me the default conversion factor is supposed to be set to 20.0

Try that.

Edit: And the overflow thing could be a polygon with too many sides. You might , as a test, want to triangulize a copy and see if that helps.
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Offline Raptor

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All right, an update is overdue, so here it is.

After a while of not doing anything about this, I decided to try another test of the turret idea.

Main reason for delay was Hammanos(sp?) Ticonderoga had arrived, and I was, er, making a few minor changes, mainly in the turrets...:nervous: (this is why I posted that 'Small favour' thread, which no one replyed to. Not that it matters now...)

Anyway, I tested this idea of mine on my version of it (the Ticonderoga), but the differance was that the 'Base' sections were part of the main hull, rather than a submodel.

PCS converted without any problem, works fine in game.  Me quite happy.:nod::yes:  Needs more work, but looking good ATM.

I may not do much to the Hera for a bit, now KARMA's lovely new Hi-poly Fenris is out.  I'll proberly spend ages messing around with turret arangments, and I've got another project idea spining around my head right now...
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Personally i think the Hera looks good enough as it is. As much as I love to see hyperdetailed models, I hate it when modelers go overboard because the public keeps demanding more detail. I myself ruin drawings I make because I must add ONE MORE THING to it and end up destroying it. :(

I think the Hera would be perfect right now as "the culmination of GTVI research into the rogue GTI's GTD Hades project" :yes:

and I agree, btw, with whoever said it looks a lot like the Warlock carrier...heck, in the Inferno mod, the Vasudans built "a superdestroyer originally designed by the Hammer of Light" --- so why not a new "derivative of the rogue GTI's GTD Hades project"? it would fit right in with the GTCa Independence's fleet in Inferno. ...heh...hint hint...give the Hera to the Inferno team ;)

(im an Inferno fanboy...what can i say? :p )
« Last Edit: March 17, 2004, 03:05:43 pm by 1644 »

 

Offline Raptor

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I have to admit, these turret details will most likely be the last thing I do to it, in terms of modelled details.  There there still is the issue of texturing and LODing, but over all, the work is about done.

If people ask nicely, I'll let them have it, but it is primarly for my own planed campain.  I'll most likely stick up a general download.  I feel that all work should be released ASAP.

I'm going to be away for a day or two, so don't be alarmed when I don't post right away.;)
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Offline Raptor

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I'mmm BACK!

And with some new screenies!


Addational engine detail.


Divisions of the main hull.

Still need to sort out those turret related points....
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Like I said before, its looking VERY good... :yes:

 

Offline Raptor

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Alright, I am now getting annoyed!:hopping:

I just ran a test of ALL my new turrets for this ship in PCS.  Just as a check.

Not one converted.

A couple came up  with
'You forgot to group these objects'

Most spat out the same error meesage as before.

Guess I'll just have to remake them, again, to make sure PCS converts them...:mad::mad2::mad:
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Offline Setekh

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:hopping:

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Offline Raptor

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Originally posted by Setekh
:hopping:

It's a pain when programs get in the way of modding rather than help the process along. Have a break, and keep at it. It'll be so worth it in the end. :)


Too true Setekh, and thanks for the encouragement!:yes:

But heres something to wonder about...

I took one turret, added the light (It's a single 'geo' turret), and split up the faces till it would work under non-HTL.  PCS converted it.

I then tried two of the turrets that wouldn't convert before.

They converted. :eek2:

Then I tryed my turret test block mk 1.  It didn't convert.:sigh:

After that, NONE of the turrets converted.:wtf:

Needless to say, I'm :confused:

I think I'll take a break from the turrets for a while, get the main hull UVmapped:shaking:, and concentrate on LODs and debris.
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Offline Raptor

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Yes, I know I'm bumping...

Just letting you all know of a few minor changes...

Since I've split the mesh to make it easier to UVmap, I've altered the lines a little.

Bow


Around the bridge.


Oh, and will someone PLEASE undo all the 'olde' talk nonsense!:hopping:
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Offline Raptor

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Quote
Rebuttal originating from the wisdom of Woolie Wool
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And not a moment too soon!
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Offline Turambar

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I like the idea of the destroyer-cargo container hybrid.
It gives a "1980's Toyota" look to the ship.
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Offline Raptor

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Quote
Originally posted by Turambar
I like the idea of the destroyer-cargo container hybrid.
It gives a "1980's Toyota" look to the ship.


:wtf: Cargo container... CARGO CONTAINER!!??!!:mad2:

Please someone, change my title back.  I am not a 'stableboy'!

Come back Bakha, all is forgiven...
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