[Knight Templar]

Meh, lucky I can't vote yet.

[Taristin]

Vote for the Reverand Al!
Legalized Crack!

[Knight Templar]

w00t w00t

[Flipside]

You know, if everyone wasted their votes on Nader, it wouldn't be wasted But no, Nader himself has been a part of the political machine for too long as well, and isn't 100% Kosher either. He may be a good start, but he will never be seriously considered, even the other parties consider him a joke Beside, I seriously doubt he's up to the job.

It seems to me that the American election is going to be a 'Logical Donkey' syndrome (ie, if you put a perfectly logical donkey exactly the same distance from two troughs of food, it would starve to death). I suppose if Nader got a respectable vote, it might at least shake things up at the Whitehouse.

We have a duty to do the same at our own elections, it would be nice to see the Liberal Party being taken seriously again, it might shake the other two main parties up.

Problem is, I can see large gains for the BNP, there's been a lot of anti-BNP work by the government, which, in it's usual efficient fashion, has only served to spread word of the party.

[Knight Templar]

I wouldn't vote for Nadar. Besides being green... his face is worse than Kerry's.

[Flipside]

He's the Hulk? Cool! Vote for him!

[Rictor]

Flipside, I think you underestimate Nader a bit, that or you're too jaded which is understandable. From what I know, if by some miracle, Nader was elected President tommorow, there would significant changes for the better, way beyond what the Democrats have on their agenda. The trouble is, the Left is pissed off because they think that Nader put Bush into the White House in 2000, despite the fact that Bush, well, stole the election. I don't think its a case of Logical Donkey, but more of a case of isolation which leads to conservativism. Becuase of their isolation from the realities of the world, most Americans (and Canadians, Western Europeans etc) think that things are fine as is, and require only minor adjustments here and there, which is why the vote for the conservative Democratic candidiate. Far too few people realize just hot corrupt and unjust the surrent system of American power is, because certain people are working very, very hard to keep it way.

Yeah, he has been in politics for a long time, but I don't think that an automatic disqualifier or even a detrement. He's well known, which is good, and his stance is pretty clear to everyone. Which, one could argue, is working to his disadvatange, since he can sit on the fence and cater to everyone, like Kerry. While he has lost popularity with the left, and seems likely to continue doing so, he has actually gained significant respect from the right. And by that, I don't mean what is these days being passed of a conservativism, I mean the real right; small government, non-interventionist foreign policy etc. I actually read an interview with Nader in...*drumroll*...The American Conservative, Pat Buchanan's magazine.

I dunno, maybe I just being idealistic, but it seems to me that Ralph is the best chance for some real change being implemented in America, though needless to say, its a hell of a longshot.

edit: oh and, he's of Arab decent, but I don't think he's particularly religious, so not much chance of catering to the Muslim crowd. And yes, I realize that I implied that most Muslim's are Arabs, but AFAIK in America that is the case.