[übermetroid]

Originally posted by StratComm
The FS2 intro is known to be crawling with inconsistancies, so it doesn't mean much.

Like what?

[StratComm]

The hades is one of the more blatent, but according to FS "canon" there are a lot of problems.  The Lucifer fires its beams from the wrong places (although that's where :V: originally wanted them IIRC), the manticore shoots lasers from its missile banks and missles from its lasers, the devestation on the planet, and so on.  I'm also not sure that the GTD Legion is not flipped along its centerline.

[IceFire]

The briefing says the Jotunhiem had been discovered in Beta Aquilae.

The Hades presence in the introduction was an artistic thing only.  Although the tech description suggests that there may have been a second destroyer of this class constructed.  If thats the case then it may have accidentally or purposely been crashed into the planet...how it got down intact is of course a mystery but we'll take it.

Seeing as the GTVA has prevented people from studying Shivan technology directly and the Hades was rife with Shivan technology its possible that during construction the formation of the GTVA meant that the ship was never finished and destroyed.

[tEAbAG]

Originally posted by IceFire
Although the tech description suggests that there may have been a second destroyer of this class constructed.  If thats the case then it may have accidentally or purposely been crashed into the planet...how it got down intact is of course a mystery but we'll take it.

"Sir we've captured a second Hades intact!"

"Uggg... just get rid of it"

[Kosh]

The desert world is meant to indicate a planetary catastrophy after the battle was over, though there is no reference to planets made uninhabitable because of a battle on orbit above (with the sole exception of Vasuda).

Considering that the GTA and the VPE lost that battle and considering how xenocidal the Shivans are (and also considering the large number of dead bodies and craters), I think it was implied the Shivans destroyed it.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Kosh


Considering that the GTA and the VPE lost that battle and considering how xenocidal the Shivans are (and also considering the large number of dead bodies and craters), I think it was implied the Shivans destroyed it.

If so, the Lucifer would have to have destroyed the planet prior to the battle...otherwise there wouldn't be an almost completely intact pilot & Hercules left on the planet.  The Lucys beams are powerful enough to level cities (based on that FS1 cbani), so it'd almost certainly incinerate any bodies.

Any craters could just as well be debris from the battle, in any case.  I think the point of the cutscene was to show the pilot lost, doomed and stranded on a dead world - he died fighting for a ball of dust and rock.

Of course, we don't know that the Shivans are xenophobic.  all we know, is that they have destroyed 2(?) worlds - Altair (IIRC...the Anicents planet and Vasuda), and the Capella star.   All 3 cases could have potentially been 'touched' by the Ancients in some way - Altair as a colony, Vasuda as possibly a 'child' race which was assisted in developing starflight, and Capella potentially as a result of the Knossos network located several systems away.