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Offline Bobboau

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this one is a little clearer, it lets to zoom in to a custom date range. if you look you'll find the ecconomy peaked at the begining of march 2000, the election wasn't untill 9 months later
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About the Al Qaeda - Iraq link:



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Originally posted by Kosh


Right on. I agree with you 100%. What is pathetic is all of the attack ads running. What is even more pathetic is how many people seriously believe them. Not to mention all of the hate that is on the right. It's sad when any opposition to a policy is labeled as "treason". Isn't that what democracy is all about? Isn't that what US alledgedly invaded Iraq to give people?


What's really sad for me, is that every politicial party in the UK* seems to follow the same tact of attacking the opposition instead of advertising the benefits / philosophy of their own policies.

It's not a case of 'vote for me, I'm the best!', it's now a case 'don;t vote for them, vote for me, cos I'm not them'.  We now have parties which seem to be dedicated to playing on peoples prejudices like UKIP and the BNP, which win votes by being against something rather than having any apparent policies of their own.

*don't know how prevelant this is in other countries, seems even worse in the US though

 

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Originally posted by vyper

You live in India right? Haven't you got a little cold war going on over there right now? :wtf:


With China and Pakistan.
But we've already started peace talks with both nations, and so far its been going pretty well. The artillary guns went quite over Kashmir a few months back.

They havent sounded off again yet.
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Originally posted by .::Tin Can::.
Kaz, those numbers were obviously pulled out of your ass, because in fact if you looked, unemployment is down,  


"Government Unemployeement" is down, "Real Unemployment" is at a record high - when Clinton would talk about his Unemployement number he'd use 'Real Unemployment" -- bush is using "Government  Unemployement"

you know what the difference is?

"Government Unemployeement" only counts people A) Drawing Govt Unemployeement Benefits B) actively using government job placement facilities

"Real Unemployement" counts all able-bodied persons of workforce age who are without job

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economy is up,


only on poor indicators, and poorly so as well

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and in fact we have boosted our military power after Clinton cut it down to size.


"after clinton cut it down to size" -- exactly, the clumsiness of your own wording shows something -- military spending is the wrost deficit spending we have right now -- and most of it is on overpriced hardware -- things we could make equally effective, yet cheaper versions, of  ---- furthermore in this massive deficit spending military budget BUSH CUT SOLIDER COMBAT PAY --- good job


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As I said, those numbers were obviously pulled out of the very thick crack in your ass.


no - your position was spoon fed to you by the Rupert Murdoch Propaganda Network


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As for Fox News, I actually listen to them only ever so often.


Often enough to get you terribly misinformed

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You can get me to believe that Clinton actually set the stage for Bush and all his sucess, then I will admit I was wrong, but until then I think that you only say what you like to say and when its good to say it.


Bush _HASN'T_ been a success -- let;s see here

A) Ignored Critical CIA reports on Terrrorism
B) Ignored Critical Battle Plan against largest terrorist organization on the planet
C) Had Vice Pres lean on CIA until the CIA falsified reports to "tell them what they want to hear" to get them to go away
D) Went from having almost complete global support for the 'War on Terror' when we, correctly, went into Afghanistan to having almost complete global opposition for incorrect invasion of Iraq (Global Support = good thing for the following reasons: they buy our goods, they willingly aid us anyway they can, etc)
E) Has a 2.2 million job NET LOSS since he became president
F) HAs knowingly and willingly, of his own volition, instigated violation of the US Constitution
G) Created an atmosphere of "If you don't agree with me, you're a traitor" immediately after 9/11 -- stifling the Right to Free Speech that our founding fathers fought and died to protect
H) Used said atmosphere (G) to pass the USA PATRIOT act - a functional duplicate of Article 48 of the Weimar Constitution (hint: that's how hitler seized power)
I) Has attempted to write bigotry into our constitution


I could go on... but that's a good summary for now

 

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And no, because it seems Im one of the only people who can take gripe after gripe from the same people without backing down just because Im being argued with. Im standing up for my ideals and Im not backing down, I'm not quivering under the pressure.


So you're standing up for the ideal of Theocracy, Bigotry, HAtred, Ignorance, Opression and War --- Good job, you could be a Dictator's henchmen!
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Originally posted by Bobboau
the ecconomy started to crash months before Bush was elected

the red line is the dow, the blue line is the Nasdaq (tech heavy)


it started to drop when investors ancipated possibly victory for him - and then he made the comment "we're in a recession" (even thouh we weren't!)
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