[DaBrain]

Ok I have two problems.

Nr.1: The PCX files have all the same color palette, yet after conversion to ANI, one white part becomes black. (No error message about wrong colors.) It's not only in ANI View, but in the game also.


Nr.2: The ANI is used for an animated glow map on a capship.
My problem is, it's way too fast, even though it runs with only 15 FPS.

I'm going crazy

[Black Wolf]

You can set the FPS in advanced setting in anibuilder. ALternately, add more frames to the animation (note that this will increase memory useage though)

[DaBrain]

Well, I know, but it runs faster in-game than 15 frames/sec.

[DaBrain]

It's for a special project of mine

The Ani is used as glowmap for the hangar.

This is frame Nr.5 (PCX, 256 colors, before conversion with Anibuilder)



This is frame Nr.5 (PCX, 256 colors, after conversion with Anibuilder)

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by DaBrain
Well, I know, but it runs faster in-game than 15 frames/sec.

IIRC the anis use run-length-encoding, so try shoving in more exactly identical frames to 'pad' the delay (crude, but should work).

It shouldn't make a major a size difference, because only the pixel colour changes are registered. (actually, if you look at a ship ani created with a pure black backround, it takes much less space than one with a detailed background ala the V ones)

EDIT; for the pallete problem, maybe try replacing true white with a very,very slightly greyer shade of white (colour replace on the 8-bit-pcx frames).  I have no idea if this would work.  But it might.

Or might not.

[DaBrain]

Yeah, thanks I'll try that. But there is much more white in each frame. Perfect super-pure white... Perhaps an Ani builder bug.


I demand new tools

[Lightspeed]

Okay, clearing up all the misunderstandings packed together in this very thread

The FPS on texture ANI's work reversed. i.e. 30 FPS will run at half the speed you get with 15 FPS. Try setting the FPS to a value around 50 ~ that's what I use for capital ship maps. If you still want it slower, just set the value higher.

On the black thingy problem: What setting do you have set in AniBuild for the palette thingy? Are you by any chance using a transparent colour in the PCXes?

[Liberator]

You realize that it's going to animate everywhere on the Orion, right?  I tried this once, the Orion looked like a Discotek.  Of course, I couldn't remap it.  If you can confine it to the launch deck it will r0x0r.  Make sure your using the Raptor's Orion with the higher poly turrets.

[DaBrain]

Originally posted by Lightspeed
Okay, clearing up all the misunderstandings packed together in this very thread

The FPS on texture ANI's work reversed. i.e. 30 FPS will run at half the speed you get with 15 FPS. Try setting the FPS to a value around 50 ~ that's what I use for capital ship maps. If you still want it slower, just set the value higher.

On the black thingy problem: What setting do you have set in AniBuild for the palette thingy? Are you by any chance using a transparent colour in the PCXes?

I thought  you couldn't set transparent colors in PCX files... I don't see an option for transparent colors in Ani Builder.


Thanks for the help with the speed. I'll try it.


@Liberator If the animation is really slow, it should look ok. If not, I'll have to change the textures and rePOF it. (I'm not sure if I can do it...)

[Lightspeed]

It looks bad. Thats the reason why I didn't make an animated glowmap for it.

[DaBrain]

I can avoid this, without much trouble.

There is only one part where the whole map is used. (size-wise)

And I rebuild the map complete, so I can adjust it, so it has the glow somewhere else.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by DaBrain



I thought  you couldn't set transparent colors in PCX files... I don't see an option for transparent colors in Ani Builder.

True green (0,255,0) is always rendered as transparent AFAIK. (NB: I've not tested on ani textures on ships)  

This even appies to the weapons or ship anis in the techroom (I noticed this doing CoW, some of the anis were never fixed and thus appear partly transparent).  I'm not sure if there are occlusion differneces between this and the TGA-based / invisble texture transparencies.

[DaBrain]

I think it has to be a problem with the Ani Builder.

Is somebody willing to convert my frames to ANI?

[DaBrain]

Oh I just found out how the glow has to look. I was wrong, about the color and the position.
So I'll start again. With less problems, I hope

[DaBrain]

Ok, now everything to worse....

The 8bit PCX frame, ready for ANI Builder



The same frame extracted from the actual ANI, should look exactly the same...


Someone please try using ANI Builder with these frames.


http://www.8ung.at/dabrain/weird.rar

[Sesquipedalian]

I've run into this problem with anibuilder before, DaBrain.  It often screws up one colour palette entry, replacing that individual colour with another from the palette.  The only fix is to build the ani once, extract any frames that get messed up, fix the error in the extracted pcx (don't change the colour palette after extracting), and then recompile the ani using that fixed pcx.

[DaBrain]

Problem is already solved. I had the wrong version. I thought there was only one version. Well, guess I was wrong.

Thx for you help anyway

[Sesquipedalian]

NP