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Why nature is smarter than man.... (Long post)
I remember the origonal article, from what I remember it was some sort of EM interference that the chips had used on them selves that chip makers spend a great deal of time and effort to eleminate, also interesting about it was that if you moved the arangement from one chip to another chip the circits wouldn't work any more, that the adaptations were environment specific.
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needless to say i think artificial intelegence will be invented on accident.

*edit* just realised that i it happened on accident then it couldnt be considered artificial :D
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Originally posted by Flipside
Actually, thinking about it, 2800 generations is far less than I would have predicted for a working circuit. Still, real life doesn't often allow for such 'massive' jumps between parents and children's genetic makeup.


Nature probably also doesn't have as good a fitness function :)

 

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needless to say i think artificial intelegence will be invented on accident.

*edit* just realised that i it happened on accident then it couldnt be considered artificial :D


kinda reminds me of the Ender series
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needless to say i think artificial intelegence will be invented on accident.

*edit* just realised that i it happened on accident then it couldnt be considered artificial :D


Probably can't create it intentionally anyways; how would you even define intelligence, after all?

Although I remember some American bloke setting up a big 10-year project to try and create a sort of 'information library' for an AI; the idea being that in order to have a usable AI you need to provide it with the same sort of rough knowledge base that humans use (what is a tree, what is brown, that sort of thing etc etc).  Every night they'd feed in information, and the AI would draw conclusions off it (learning, effectively) - and in the morning they'd review the conclusions made by it.  

For example, they AI had problems when given the information that humans shaved - it had trouble distinguishing that the shaver was not part of the human body, and ended up regarding humans and mechanical and thus not alive (or similar, exact details escape me).  Very odd conclusions, yet completely logical based on what it knew.

I forget the name of this project, natch, but it should have been 'completed' a few years back.  I'd be very interested if anyone knows of how it developed; if it worked, then it'd be leading towards an AI (maybe not intelligent, so much as a knowledge base able to draw inferences) with a basic understanding of how the real world works.

NB: it wasn't just a case of feeding in information like into a dictionary... the idea was that this AI could take basic facts, draw conclusions, and then continue to draw further conclusions from the basis of both what it had been told and also what it had inferred.

 

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As for the Prisoner's Dilemma, I've read somewhere that they've figured out a strategy that not only beats tit for tat, it also performs better in all situations.

IIRC, it's some complicated scheme where each "player" that uses this tactic somehow finds other players also using this tactic and they all cooperate.  Quite clever if you ask me.


Tit for tat has it's problems. It's very easy for it to get into exactly the sort of battle the name implies and end up alternately cooperating and backstabbing.

The main point though is that even if something else can beat tit for tat it's still a nice strategy. I haven't heard of a nasty one that can do that yet :D
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Why nature is smarter than man.... (Long post)
Well, the solution I mentioned isn't technically nasty, but I'm sure it could be modified so that not only do they collectively support others using the same scheme, but also work together to crush those not using the same scheme.