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Ok, this is getting stupid(Cindy Shehan)
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what about schiavo other than the fact she was in a PVS

Terry Schiavo was used as a pawn by the politicians and the media. I was just citing her as an example of exploitation.

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Yup, it is.  I was slightly incorrect in saying that, though; the TV is legally required to be balanced (and i think the radio), but the print media (newspapers) isn't and indeed is frequently biased.  

Ofcom observes radio & tv media fairness; it was them that, for example, censured Fox for biased criticism of the BBC without offering a chance for rebuttal, and for presenting an opinion based upon false evidence. (http://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv/obb/prog_cb/pcb_11/upheld_cases?a=87101).

IMO the system works fairly well, although there was and is some concern about Ofcoms creation (it merged 5 or so previous bodies) as it's feared part of the governments stated purpose in it was to open up the TV media, and this could lead to a US style system of multiple biased sources lacking fair treatment and coverage.

Ah OK, cause I noticed some articles I've read that have been linked here from British media are biased.

We used to have something here in the US called the Fairness Doctrine, which required that you had to present a counterpoint on your programming for issues that were controversial or of public interest, but that was thrown out during Regan's term, and that's why people can say whatever they want to the degree of verbal diarrhea now.

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Assumption 2: You're as naive as you accuse me of being if you assume every politician is a corrupt fount of cronyism -- some politicians are honest and we need to learn to elect them instead of the guy who is "christian", "good looking", "a small town guy" [born with a silver spoon in his mouth]

I didn't think he was good looking. ^_^ But yeah, those are excuses for people voting for their party not a candidate they think is fit for the job. The whole country would crumble if an independent won a state. We can't expect politicians to be perfectly honest though, regardless of what they stand for. Even if one was, he or she would still wind up lying and pissing off people somehow.

 

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Ok, this is getting stupid(Cindy Shehan)
EtherShock: yeah no politician tells the truth 100% of the time, no human tells the truth 100% of the time.

but unlike in Rictor's naive rants not every politician is a self-serving power-hungry corruption-monger
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Originally posted by Kazan
cindy sheehan may be a moron - but she came to protest then the politicians and the media attached to her

the anti-sheehan [lady wit 3 sons and a husband in iraq] was latched onto by the politicians and brought to the media

little difference

on a side note: sheehan is an idiot - instant withdrawl = stupid, doesn't know difference between conventional weapons [DU] and nuclear weapons

PST: NEVER EVER link drudge - 80% of the stories he posts are from unreliable, unconfirmable sources and 100% of his stories are biased.
I wasn't using the drudgereport to argue or prove anything other that these two women are being manipulated. At the time it was the only source availiable.

Also, I am not trying to say that one situation is better than the other. But that these woman are being manipulated and honestly are in it way about their head.

And yes, Cindy Shehan is an idiot. She is also IMO is having a nervous breakdown over her sons death. Which is totally understandable. I also heard her state that pulling out of Iraq and stopping the support of Israel would stop terrorism.
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I also heard her state that pulling out of Iraq and stopping the support of Israel would stop terrorism.


which is why i consider her an idiot

stopping supporting israel would probably help [they can support themselves just fine] and putting iraq back togeather since we smashed it would help - simply pulling out won't.

My problem with the iraqi war is A) we shouldn't be there in the first place, but since we're there already B) we should be handling it correctly and we're not
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Ah OK, cause I noticed some articles I've read that have been linked here from British media are biased.


We have some blindingly awful newspapers, tis true.  Some of which are owned by Rupert Murdoch, oddly enough.