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hey there  folks
im back
im about to sell my  two  computers  and i was wondering if  i should get a  laptop from alienware or some place or if i  should build myself a  Pentium four desktop

and i   build  myself a desktop, ...  how much  ram  , video card and what brand of motherboard should i  get?

and whats this thing about  Socket "T" and the "Dual Core"  processors about?

would there be any difference from a "single core"  presscot  compared to a "dual core" smith field?

or if i should get a  laptop
please tell me what kind and from  who...

thanks for your help in advance

 

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ok , thanks for the input
but in my  personal experince , amd was  allways  slower and they heat up too easily

 

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AMDs are technically a better design now. Have been for a while now.


Why do people keep buying Intels? Brand loyalty is probably a big factor.

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and whats this thing about Socket "T" and the "Dual Core" processors about?


In theory you get twice the processing power. Whether or not that actually doubles your CPU performance, I have no idea. I haven't read any reviews on it.
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AMDs are technically a better design now. Have been for a while now.  


ok when you say AMD is of a "better design"  may i ask why?

 

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Better bang for the buck......

IIRC it has a better memory access controller, better (per price) integer & floating point performance, cleaner archicture.

 
For my next system I will probably get a pentium D not because I dislike AMD (quite the opposite actually) but becaues I like to multitask a lot. I need the extra power and the X2s are way above my price range. Its a matter of personal preference really. If all you are going to do on it is games etc then AMD is the better buy for sure. If what you like is encoding and office productivity then you should go Intel.

 

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I'm not very attuned to such things, although my GeForce4 has been running perfectly for quite a few years now and I hold it in high regard.

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hey there folks
im back


I don't remember you, but welcome back anyway. :D

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im about to sell my two computers and i was wondering if i should get a laptop from alienware or some place or if i should build myself a Pentium four desktop


Build your own if you have the time. You will save a lot of money and can get exactly what you want.

The single core P4s suck. They are slower than equivalent A64s across the board, sometimes by significant margins, and don't have any price advantage. They also run considerably hotter and consume much more power, if that matters to you. For gaming, getting a low end A64 venice and overclocking it is probably the best option.

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and i build myself a desktop, ... how much ram , video card and what brand of motherboard should i get?


1GB is about the minimum for modern games. Some newer games like BF2 struggle with even that and need 2GB. Just get some value 2.5-3-3 latency stuff, although there are some 2-3-3 rated sticks at comparable prices; the more expensive stuff isn't worth the small performance gains.

As for video cards, if you have the money and a good monitor with a decent max resolution, then get a 7800 GTX. Nothing touches that card and the prices have fallen to about $500 now. The eVGA KO one is probably overall the best, although Leadtek is coming out with one that might be a bit better. Otherwise, get an X800XL or one of the cheap X800XTs if you can find a good deal on those.

For motherboards, the DFI nF4 ultra-D board is still the best one overall. Asus boards are a bit more reliable and good choices overall but tend to cost more and aren't as good overclockers. MSI makes one with a very good onboard sound chip, if you want to use that. Epox also makes one that is quite close to these but is priced lower. Unfortunately, there still aren't any boards with that new ULi chipset.

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and whats this thing about Socket "T" and the "Dual Core" processors about?

would there be any difference from a "single core" presscot compared to a "dual core" smith field?


Socket T is just the new Intel CPU socket interface. All modern Intel desktop CPUs and motherboards use that.

Dual core helps a lot for multitasking and certain types of programs (mainly rendering and math computation stuff), but won't make any difference in games for at least another year. The PDs are slower but less expensive than the Athlon X2s; the lower end ones are a pretty good buy, although their motherboards are more expensive.

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or if i should get a laptop
please tell me what kind and from who...


Only get a laptop if you need the portability. They have gotten better but still lag behind desktops for games, both in performance and price.
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hey there  folks
im back


Don't we get one of these every couple of months? :D How about just staying and posting when you've successfully stayed here a couple of months instead :p
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ok thanks for your input CP5670 i appreicate  your input.. you gave me  a lot of clarity  on this subject
i think i will  get a dual core p4 because what i will  be using is for hosting and streaming  my new  radioshow and  hopefully with  enuff  ram and stuff i can stream the show and play FS2 at the  same  time lol

 

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No problem.

yeah, for that sort of thing you definitely want some kind of dual core. The Pentium D 820 offers dual core performance at a great price. That one is really the only PD worth buying though; anything higher and you won't save any money over a faster Athlon X2 once the higher motherboard cost is factored in. For Intel motherboards, I think Asus is generally thought to make the best ones (although they're expensive), but I'm not really sure. You need a board with either the Intel 955X or the nforce4 Intel edition chipsets.

 

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The Pentium D 820 offers dual core performance at a great price.

Excuse me? Athlon 64 X2 3800+ beats P4D 820 hands down when it comes to price/performance ratio. Granted, the D 820 is the cheapest dual core cpu currently available and might be the only option when you're low on budget. But if you can afford D 830, you can afford X2 3800+ which wins hands down.

While 7800GTX is a monster in both performance and price, 7800GT's are far more affordable, and still beats ATI X850's.
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That's my point. The 820 is cheaper than any X2 and is your only option if that's your budget limit. It's still faster than any single core if you actually have programs that can make full use of both cores.

And I personally don't think the 7800 GT is cheap enough now that you can find GTXs for $470, unless you got in on that Dell deal a while ago. If I was buying now, I would just spend the extra $80 and get a GTX given how much I will already be spending anyway. From what I've heard the GT is a different core than the GTX and there is no extra quad that can be unlocked.

If you want to play games, you are much better off going cheap with the processor and heavy on the video card than the other way around.
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