[Carl]

hehe there have been 3 mods named Thor.

[Dr.Zer0]

 

Originally posted by Carl:
hehe there have been 3 mods named Thor.

I guess its because its one of the olny gods that   forgot  

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[This message has been edited by Dr.Zer0 (edited 08-17-2001).]

[Setekh]

 

Originally posted by IceFire:
We didn't know and probably neither did the other author and the point is that it really doesn't matter.

In Warlock's defense, I think this is just the point. It is true that many mods have had their names over-written, but unknowingly; in this situation, Ace knew full well that Warlock had chosen the name. I think that's the root of this particular problem.

As for the Thor thing, I think there was an Odin and a Thor in Silent Threat. Remember the Jotunheim? Rogue GTI ships used a Norse naming convention.

[Warlock]

Set hit the nail on the head.

If it were "Sorry didn't know you were using that name" it's be no problem.

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[Nico]

 

Originally posted by Setekh:
In Warlock's defense, I think this is just the point. It is true that many mods have had their names over-written, but unknowingly; in this situation, Ace knew full well that Warlock had chosen the name. I think that's the root of this particular problem.

As for the Thor thing, I think there was an Odin and a Thor in Silent Threat. Remember the Jotunheim? Rogue GTI ships used a Norse naming convention.

Jotunheim?!?.... Oh... HEEEEEEEEELLLLLL!!! I'm fed up with names, I'll pay someone to find them for me soon...  

[wEvil]

I'm sorry i even came along :0/

Seriously, my designs' name was origionally the "havok" (and still is - i'm working into it and make it movie-quality atm...its maxxing my machine out quite badly though..i have to hide bits im not working on to stay above 2fps..heh)

I like the design of your ship, warlock, and im sorry i dug the issue up but it was going to happen sooner or later.

The way all this is going modders are going to start having to sign contracts and such to work on projects....maybe someone should draw up some "rules" of one sort or another so IF something turns a little sour like this we have some guidelines to follow?

[Warlock]

WEvil...nothing here was your fault bud   Just so you know I hold nothing against you, Ace got you to design a ship for him, but he choose to use my ship's design name.

Sides I'd rather this have come out now than after I started releasing Ghosts of the Past demos and betas and have someone tell me "Hey you copied Ace's ship idea!" or some crap.

I know of ppl may not agree with me at all....but my view is simply when you work so long and hard on something it's rather upsetting to see someone knowingly rip it off...in full or even in part. I spent my first 2 months painstakingly emailing every single mod designer of any mod I wished to make ANY use of and if they did't reply telling me it was fine to use...I haven't.

I'm not even trying to get into copyrights and all that crap...it's much simplier ppl,...respect for your friends, fellow designers,..and this community.

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[Wildfire]

Het War, long time no see.

What's been happening in GOTP anyway, I haven't heard from any of you fors so long that I forgot about it.

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[Warlock]

Hey Wild oh yee of dialog design!  

Don't worry buddy we'll grab ya once we've got the new GOTP site up here at HLP and Eth's into mission design phase  

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[IceFire]

 

It is true that many mods have had their names over-written, but unknowingly; in this situation, Ace knew full well that Warlock had chosen the name. I think that's the root of this particular problem.

I'll rebut this one since it makes the most sense.  As I understand it, Warlock was to make the model for Ace (am I wrong) and when he disappeared Ace got a new modeler.  Or maybe it was Ace just noticed that he dissapeared and used the name....but thats not the point.  I originally told Ace (when I talked to him) that he should just change the ship name a be done with it.  But he's looked up the mythology and incorporated it into the campaign.  Some depth, perhaps small, will be lost with a name change and under the circumstances, I can't see that Ace has done Warlock any wrong.

Fingers are getting pointed and I once again emphasize that its just a name either way.

[Ace]

Since my talking with Warlock to give him credit to avoid "rip off syndrome" and keeping the names as they are doesn't seem acceptable, and since as IceFire has said it is just a name, I've worked on siphoning through mythology to get a replacement which works.

Balius more then works since it is Xanthus' twin wanderer and won't require anything.

I do feel that a better arrangement could have been worked out, however as it is I will fully thank Warlock for the new name.

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[Warlock]

 

Originally posted by IceFire:
I'll rebut this one since it makes the most sense.  As I understand it, Warlock was to make the model for Ace (am I wrong) and when he disappeared Ace got a new modeler.  Or maybe it was Ace just noticed that he dissapeared and used the name....but thats not the point.  I originally told Ace (when I talked to him) that he should just change the ship name a be done with it.  But he's looked up the mythology and incorporated it into the campaign.  Some depth, perhaps small, will be lost with a name change and under the circumstances, I can't see that Ace has done Warlock any wrong.

Fingers are getting pointed and I once again emphasize that its just a name either way.

Actually Ace was assisting me with some texturing ideas before I finally kept the current set. For his assistance I was going to allow him use of the Xanthus in his campaign, giving him the completed ship before the release of GOTP which would be the only full release of the Xanthus.

Hence my reason for being upset, aside of him giving ideas and playing around with some texturing, which I was and still am thankful for, Ace didn't play a role in the creation of the Xanthus carrier.

I'm sorry if some of you guys feel I'm being big headed or just plain wrong here. But it was reasons such has this that I'd had my doubts abut ever truely releasing any betas or even too much of GOTP's storyline.

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[Wildfire]

Oh War, I had a question for you.

Thanks for the Dunbar mod you gave me a while back.  I've got to the point in ATH where I need to use it but there's no table entries for it and I don't know enough to create my own.  If you have some free time can you send a table file for it.

Cheers.

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Captain's Log - Stardate 200108.17

G'day Warlock.

I downloaded your Xanthus and it looks great (even though no skins were supplied). So what I did was add some textures to fullfill my imagination. I think my new skin for the Xanthus looks great (especially the engine area). I added some subsystems and a thruster effect too. Warlock, if you would like this or if you would like to just see some screenshots I made of it, feel free to drop me a line at [email protected].

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[Warlock]

WildFire: I'll do what I can bro...you can use the entry for the Arcadia for now thou...since the version you have doesn't have any weapons or the shields yet. So it really only sits there and just about any tbl data that flags it as a station will do.

Capt: Sure I'd love to check it out. Sorry I forgot to place the textures in with it  lol,..if you take a peek Set put up an image of the Xanthus that shows her real textures.

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